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Old 11-15-2013, 06:35 AM   #646
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Unser Erzengel ist der Star des Monats.
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Gibt’s dafür ’nen Pokal? [ich frage natürlich in aller Bescheidenheit!]

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Gibt’s dafür ’nen Pokal? [ich frage natürlich in aller Bescheidenheit!]
Wozu brauchst du einen Pokal, wenn du die Heilige Gral behütest?
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Ich brauche Rat bezüglich einer Urheberrechtsfrage: Für meinen Reader habe ich
die Essays von Montaigne bearbeitet, die in Spiegel online-Gutenberg (http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/autor/1403) und Zeno (http://www.zeno.org/Literatur/M/Mont...chel+de/Essays) enthalten sind -beide identisch. Ich könnte das Buch bei mobileread einstellen. Die Buch-Quelle ist gut 100 Jahre alt, der Übersetzer 200 Jahre tot - dem Text liegt aber eine modernisierte Reclam-Fassung von 1987 zugrunde - vgl. Spiegel-online, Hinweise am Ende von Kpt. 16. Für Zeno anscheinend kein Problem, denn dort ist der Text als "gemeinfrei" ausgewiesen. Ist das wirklich so?
Irgendwie macht die Verlinkung zu Zeno Probleme, nochmal:
http://www.zeno.org/Literatur/M/Mont...chel+de/Essays

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Ich brauche Rat bezüglich einer Urheberrechtsfrage: Für meinen Reader habe ich
die Essays von Montaigne bearbeitet, die in Spiegel online-Gutenberg (http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/autor/1403) und Zeno (http://www.zeno.org/Literatur/M/Mont...chel+de/Essays) enthalten sind -beide identisch. Ich könnte das Buch bei mobileread einstellen. Die Buch-Quelle ist gut 100 Jahre alt, der Übersetzer 200 Jahre tot - dem Text liegt aber eine modernisierte Reclam-Fassung von 1987 zugrunde - vgl. Spiegel-online, Hinweise am Ende von Kpt. 16. Für Zeno anscheinend kein Problem, denn dort ist der Text als "gemeinfrei" ausgewiesen. Ist das wirklich so?
Irgendwie macht die Verlinkung zu Zeno Probleme, nochmal:
http://www.zeno.org/Literatur/M/Mont...chel+de/Essays
Eine wissenschaftliche Neuausgabe eines an sich gemeinfreien Textes ist für 25 Jahre geschützt. Sollte dieser Reclamband also tatsächlich eine Neufassung enthalten und nicht nur die Rechtschreibung korrigieren oder ähnliches, wäre er trotzdem seit Anfang dieses Jahres gemeinfrei.
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Dankeschön!
Das trifft dann ja wohl auch zu, wenn einer der Bearbeiter der ursprünglichen "kritischen Gesamtausgabe" von 1908 erst vor 50 Jahren gestorben ist.
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Das trifft dann ja wohl auch zu, wenn einer der Bearbeiter der ursprünglichen "kritischen Gesamtausgabe" von 1908 erst vor 50 Jahren gestorben ist.
Richtig. Bei solchen Ausgaben ist das Ableben der Herausgeber irrelevant, wichtig ist nur der Zeitpunkt der Veröffentlichung (anderes gilt natürlich für Fußnoten oder Einführungen).
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Ich brauche Rat bezüglich einer Urheberrechtsfrage: Für meinen Reader habe ich
die Essays von Montaigne bearbeitet, die in Spiegel online-Gutenberg (http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/autor/1403) und Zeno (http://www.zeno.org/Literatur/M/Mont...chel+de/Essays) enthalten sind -beide identisch. Ich könnte das Buch bei mobileread einstellen. Die Buch-Quelle ist gut 100 Jahre alt, der Übersetzer 200 Jahre tot - dem Text liegt aber eine modernisierte Reclam-Fassung von 1987 zugrunde - vgl. Spiegel-online, Hinweise am Ende von Kpt. 16. Für Zeno anscheinend kein Problem, denn dort ist der Text als "gemeinfrei" ausgewiesen. Ist das wirklich so?
Irgendwie macht die Verlinkung zu Zeno Probleme, nochmal:
http://www.zeno.org/Literatur/M/Mont...chel+de/Essays
Nur weil die mal was veröffentlicht haben, ist das noch keine Garantie. Gerade bei GB.de muß man genau hingucken, so sind z.B. eine Vielzahl der Doyle-Übersetzungen nicht gemeinfrei, sondern eben aktuelle Werke die auf diesem Weg publiziert werden.

Bei modernisierten Fassungen stellt sich immer die Frage, wo die triviale Überarbeitung aufhört und die wissenschaftliche Neuausgabe (die ein eigenständiges Recht begründet) anfängt.... Aber das scheint ja in deinem Fall im grünen Bereich zu liegen.
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Dennoch, nach weiterem Surfen lasse ich es lieber sein. Nach dieser Seite ( http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?i...31158009826420 ) ist die zugrundeliegende kritische Ausgabe immer noch urheberrechtlich geschützt. Vermutlich stammen die Fußnoten, in diesem Fall die Übersetzungen der lateinischen Zitate, von einem Herausgeber, der erst 50 Jahre tot ist.
Schade, denn deutsche Ausgaben von Montaigne sind rar!
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Das wäre aber wirklich schade! Warum lässt du die Fußnoten nicht erstmal raus? Eine weitere Möglichkeit wäre, für deine private Ausgabe die Fußnoten zu erhalten und sie nur in der MR-Fassung zu löschen. So habe ich es bei den Virginia-Woolf-Tagebüchern gemacht, deren Fußnoten ich dann ich 50 Jahren nachreichen kann (weil wir ja bis dahin alle unsterblich sind.)
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Na, da wirst du wohl die Google-Scans der Originalausgabe OCRen müssen. Sind nur sechs Bände Fraktur, ein Klacks...

EDIT: Pynchs Vorschlag ist natürlich der bessere...
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Das wäre aber wirklich schade! Warum lässt du die Fußnoten nicht erstmal raus? Eine weitere Möglichkeit wäre, für deine private Ausgabe die Fußnoten zu erhalten und sie nur in der MR-Fassung zu löschen. So habe ich es bei den Virginia-Woolf-Tagebüchern gemacht, deren Fußnoten ich dann ich 50 Jahren nachreichen kann (weil wir ja bis dahin alle unsterblich sind.)

Ja, das kann ich so machen. Danke für den Tipp!
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Ja, das kann ich so machen. Danke für den Tipp!
Super, ich stelle mir dann für den 1.1.2044 ’nen Wecker, damit ich dich dran erinnern kann, die Fußnoten einzustellen.
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Super, ich stelle mir dann für den 1.1.2044 ’nen Wecker, damit ich dich dran erinnern kann, die Fußnoten einzustellen.
Nicht doch! Otto Flake verstarb 1963. Also darf es schon ganze zehn Jahre früher klingeln.
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