Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book General > News

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-26-2013, 03:13 PM   #211
Sil_liS
Wizard
Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 4,384
Karma: 30630402
Join Date: Oct 2010
Device: PocketBook 903 & 360+
Quote:
Originally Posted by afv011 View Post
Did you read the article? The idea here is that a large number of devices are not reaching the customer, but are simply stock in stores. The piles of unsold 5c shown on some store pictures would support this.
I'm not clear on your point.
Sil_liS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2013, 04:00 PM   #212
pl001
Evangelist
pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 424
Karma: 4747474
Join Date: Dec 2010
Device: Nook, Nook Color, EVO3D, Surface RT
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sil_liS View Post
I'm not clear on your point.
He is saying that up to 3.5 million of the phones reported sold were not actually sold to consumers, rather they are still in channel inventory.

In other words, Apple sold and shipped the phones to resellers, but resellers have not sold all the phones yet to consumers.

Their conclusions appear to be based on pure speculation.
pl001 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2013, 05:36 PM   #213
Sil_liS
Wizard
Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 4,384
Karma: 30630402
Join Date: Oct 2010
Device: PocketBook 903 & 360+
Quote:
Originally Posted by pl001 View Post
He is saying that up to 3.5 million of the phones reported sold were not actually sold to consumers, rather they are still in channel inventory.

In other words, Apple sold and shipped the phones to resellers, but resellers have not sold all the phones yet to consumers.

Their conclusions appear to be based on pure speculation.
Thanks for the explanation, but I think that I need more.

Wouldn't there have been devices in channel inventory in the previous releases as well?
Sil_liS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2013, 08:26 PM   #214
pl001
Evangelist
pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pl001 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 424
Karma: 4747474
Join Date: Dec 2010
Device: Nook, Nook Color, EVO3D, Surface RT
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sil_liS View Post
Thanks for the explanation, but I think that I need more.

Wouldn't there have been devices in channel inventory in the previous releases as well?
Previous years only released one phone. There are two new models this year included in their figures. The 5S is selling very well, the 5C not so much. So the speculation is that there are about 3.5 million unsold 5Cs in inventory.

But again, it's pure speculation.
pl001 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2013, 09:53 PM   #215
afv011
Captain Penguin
afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
afv011's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,768
Karma: 2076603579
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
Device: nook*, nexus 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sil_liS View Post
Thanks for the explanation, but I think that I need more.

Wouldn't there have been devices in channel inventory in the previous releases as well?
No, because in previous years the old model continued to be sold, albeit at a discount, so the channel was already full. Now we have a new model introduced so, according to some people, some of the "sold" devices are not actually sold, but simply shipped to stores as inventory.
afv011 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 12:33 AM   #216
Sil_liS
Wizard
Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 4,384
Karma: 30630402
Join Date: Oct 2010
Device: PocketBook 903 & 360+
Quote:
Originally Posted by pl001 View Post
Previous years only released one phone. There are two new models this year included in their figures. The 5S is selling very well, the 5C not so much. So the speculation is that there are about 3.5 million unsold 5Cs in inventory.

But again, it's pure speculation.
I understand the speculation after your explanation, but I don't understand why there is the assumption that this is something that only happened this year.

Quote:
Originally Posted by afv011 View Post
No, because in previous years the old model continued to be sold, albeit at a discount, so the channel was already full. Now we have a new model introduced so, according to some people, some of the "sold" devices are not actually sold, but simply shipped to stores as inventory.
How could the channel have been full? The new models have to have gone on that channel as well.
Sil_liS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 12:48 AM   #217
Dulin's Books
Wizard
Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 2,736
Karma: 12477398
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Portland, OR
Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc
because in the past they kept the same exact phone in the same wrapper. so when they shipped those to the stores it didnt count towards the "new sales record" count. this time they gave the 5 new clothes. shipping those 5c's to fill stores in place of the 5 in old clothes gets counted as part of that launch weekend sales total even though its just doing the same thing last years old model did- filling space.
Dulin's Books is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 10:29 AM   #218
Sil_liS
Wizard
Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 4,384
Karma: 30630402
Join Date: Oct 2010
Device: PocketBook 903 & 360+
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dulin's Books View Post
because in the past they kept the same exact phone in the same wrapper. so when they shipped those to the stores it didnt count towards the "new sales record" count. this time they gave the 5 new clothes. shipping those 5c's to fill stores in place of the 5 in old clothes gets counted as part of that launch weekend sales total even though its just doing the same thing last years old model did- filling space.
I understand that being that being the same phone in a new wrapper it gets to count towards the "new sales record". But that is not what I'm asking about. Even before, the new model was coming into the system, so the old models couldn't have filled the whole channel as afv011 is saying.
Sil_liS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 06:34 PM   #219
simplyparticular
Breecisely
simplyparticular ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.simplyparticular ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.simplyparticular ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.simplyparticular ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.simplyparticular ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.simplyparticular ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.simplyparticular ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.simplyparticular ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.simplyparticular ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.simplyparticular ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.simplyparticular ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
simplyparticular's Avatar
 
Posts: 570
Karma: 1383380
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: New York
Device: see signature
In my market, the 5Cs are selling, at least at Verizon, T-Mobile and Apple. For the last three days, you couldn't find a yellow or pink in either size, and blue was sold out in the 16GB. White seems to be the only model everyone had in stock. Apple has green in both sizes. Same with the weird holey cases - totally out of certain colors.

Apple got a new shipment today and I snagged a pink/coral one. Liking the feel in hand. Too soon to say on iOS7 - I'm not fully set up yet.

Also - little known detail unless you frequent phone boards - the Verizon 5c, bought as device only (no plan), is unlocked for use on Verizon AND the GSM carriers. Mine's running on T Mobile right now. Just needed to supply a live nano SIM from T Mobile.
simplyparticular is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 07:34 PM   #220
Dulin's Books
Wizard
Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dulin's Books ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 2,736
Karma: 12477398
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Portland, OR
Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc
yeah all verizon lte phones are now unlocked
Dulin's Books is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1.7 announced Shaggy iRex 48 08-04-2009 11:41 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:17 AM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.