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Old 07-16-2013, 02:52 PM   #166
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I know this is more of an html forum but maybe some can help
With a little jave

I working on a script that will open my book (on my kindle fire)
To a particular location. I am able to open the book with this.

Intent intent = new Intent();
intent.setAction(android.content.Intent.ACTION_VIE W);
File file = new File("/sdcard/Books/Testbook.prc");
intent.setDataAndType(Uri.fromFile(file), "application/x-mobipocket-ebook");
startActivity(intent);

Catlog doesn’t’ give me a lot of info I can use.

So what would be the commands after the book opens.
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I know this is more of an html forum but maybe some can help
With a little jave

I working on a script that will open my book (on my kindle fire)
To a particular location. I am able to open the book with this.

Intent intent = new Intent();
intent.setAction(android.content.Intent.ACTION_VIE W);
File file = new File("/sdcard/Books/Testbook.prc");
intent.setDataAndType(Uri.fromFile(file), "application/x-mobipocket-ebook");
startActivity(intent);

Catlog doesn’t’ give me a lot of info I can use.

So what would be the commands after the book opens.
THX
Assuming that you're using the book for your own purposes, and not uploading it, which wouldn't make it past the KDP, you can do whatever you want, as it's a personal app, really. Kindle books/mobi's don't use js, only JSON, and even that, in a very limited capacity, so what you do for your own reading pleasure is entirely up to you. It's a lot of extra effort just to get around using the OPF's Guide items, which for the most part, work perfectly.

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Old 07-17-2013, 02:48 PM   #168
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I’m not modifying to book or trying to get around OPF's Guide items, we are trying to utilize them.
The issue we are having is that we have a Hard Copy book 679 pages and the Kindle e-book
Has no pages just locations . i.e When we are at pg 450, in the hard copy, our kindle users have a difficult time go To that page .
I created a table that corresponds to Pg to location i.e pg 450 =loc 4479
This is ok but still a little inconvenient.

My app Does open the book and Kindle reader but Im still struggling to
Find the commands that after the book opens to go to a particular location.
Once I can find that command.
I can write a script i.e if pg 450 then go Loc 4479

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Old 07-17-2013, 03:38 PM   #169
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Im not modifying to book or trying to get around OPF's Guide items, we are trying to utilize them.
The issue we are having is that we have a Hard Copy book 679 pages and the Kindle e-book
Has no pages just locations . i.e When we are at pg 450, in the hard copy, our kindle users have a difficult time go To that page .
I created a table that corresponds to Pg to location i.e pg 450 =loc 4479
This is ok but still a little inconvenient.

My app Does open the book and Kindle reader but Im still struggling to
Find the commands that after the book opens to go to a particular location.
Once I can find that command.
I can write a script i.e if pg 450 then go Loc 4479

Joenojnk

Joe:

You can't use JS in a book that's going to be put on sale as a MOBI file via Amazon. That's kind of what I was asking you. There are THREE OPF Guide items allowable via Amazon, and they'll grey out any others you add: Start, TOC and Cover. Simply put them in the Guide. After that, you're just expending effort for no return. If you try to upload a mobi file with JS in it at Amazon it will not pass intake.

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Im not modifying to book or trying to get around OPF's Guide items, we are trying to utilize them.
The issue we are having is that we have a Hard Copy book 679 pages and the Kindle e-book
Has no pages just locations . i.e When we are at pg 450, in the hard copy, our kindle users have a difficult time go To that page .
I created a table that corresponds to Pg to location i.e pg 450 =loc 4479
This is ok but still a little inconvenient.

My app Does open the book and Kindle reader but Im still struggling to
Find the commands that after the book opens to go to a particular location.
Once I can find that command.
I can write a script i.e if pg 450 then go Loc 4479
Sorry, I've no idea about using Java to run the android version of the Kindle app.

As an alternative, I beleive that Amazon do have some way of tying page number into a Kindle ebook. Perhaps looking that up in the documentation for Kindlegen will give a way to accomplish what you want without having to write some separate code, and that will work with any Kindle device.
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You can't use JS in a book that's going to be put on sale as a MOBI file via Amazon. That's kind of what I was asking you. There are THREE OPF Guide items allowable via Amazon, and they'll grey out any others you add: Start, TOC and Cover. Simply put them in the Guide. After that, you're just expending effort for no return. If you try to upload a mobi file with JS in it at Amazon it will not pass intake.

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He's talking about a small external java application, not javascript inside the book.
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He's talking about a small external java application, not javascript inside the book.
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I get that, but...not to be dense, how's it getting from here to there? I went back and read the original post, but it seems as though the intent is for a mobi that goes through the usual channels. My comprehension here is that he's trying to create a type of concordance or compendium that x-refs the original page numbers to an (external?) reference material/app?

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I get that, but...not to be dense, how's it getting from here to there? I went back and read the original post, but it seems as though the intent is for a mobi that goes through the usual channels. My comprehension here is that he's trying to create a type of concordance or compendium that x-refs the original page numbers to an (external?) reference material/app?

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He's made the concordance. What he's working on is a script/app to run on his Kindle Fire (an android device) that will tell the Kindle app to open the book at any particular location, so that his app can open the book at (say) page 304, doing the translation from page number to location for him.

I suspect he'd be better off looking into how Amazon handles their 'real page numbers' instead.
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He's made the concordance. What he's working on is a script/app to run on his Kindle Fire (an android device) that will tell the Kindle app to open the book at any particular location, so that his app can open the book at (say) page 304, doing the translation from page number to location for him.

I suspect he'd be better off looking into how Amazon handles their 'real page numbers' instead.
Ok, yes, I think we are talking apples and oranges. From my perspective, what I think of is: how does this get sold through Amazon? I guess the answer is, it gets sold/vended as an appurtenant app to the actual mobi, as it can't be sold via the KDP process. That's where my trolley was leaving the tracks.

Yes, I know why he's working on it. We get requests like this from groups (ACA, particularly) that has a handbook in both forms, and has study groups that have this issue; when the group moderator wants to refer to a given passage (5th paragraph on page 221), etc.; what we've stuck with is, quote the first 4 words. That always works, even though I'd be the first to agree that searching on a K2 is pretty slow going. ;-) The typing part, rather than the search itself. I don't see easy answers for this on any digital media that isn't PDF, myself.

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Ok, yes, I think we are talking apples and oranges. From my perspective, what I think of is: how does this get sold through Amazon? I guess the answer is, it gets sold/vended as an appurtenant app to the actual mobi, as it can't be sold via the KDP process. That's where my trolley was leaving the tracks.

Yes, I know why he's working on it. We get requests like this from groups (ACA, particularly) that has a handbook in both forms, and has study groups that have this issue; when the group moderator wants to refer to a given passage (5th paragraph on page 221), etc.; what we've stuck with is, quote the first 4 words. That always works, even though I'd be the first to agree that searching on a K2 is pretty slow going. ;-) The typing part, rather than the search itself. I don't see easy answers for this on any digital media that isn't PDF, myself.

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I do have the Cross reference table for the ACA BRB , If you Have a use for it, Its a bit faster than searching for a word pattern.
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From what I can tell, matching the page number of a print edition to a position in a Kindle e-book file is a mysterious process that can only be accomplished by Amazon, if and only if it has access to both the e-book (mobi+) and the print version (via create space?). Now, Adobe has a straightforward and published way to do this via a mapping file inserted into the epub, but said file will not (as I understand it) translate to Amazon mapping of the Mobi file.

In other words, if you want to do this with a Kindle book, give Amazon both the mobi format and the print book (as PDF?) in create space, and let them do it. Otherwise, you may be SOL.

This is NOT the final word on the subject, but just what I have heard.

YMMV.

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Joe:

My clients would be most grateful for it; can you PM me your contact info, which I will give to them?

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