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Old 05-01-2013, 10:54 AM   #16
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If the ebook was purchased there should absolutely be ZERO ads in the ebook, period. If you are giving away the ebooks then some ads may be acceptable.
There's ads and there's ADS

If you open a book and find adverts to buy random products like deodorant, or popular soft drinks, then I agree and I'd stop buying books by that author/publisher depending who was to blame.

If it's a note at the start or end of a book to let you know what other books this author has written or books by similar authors genre/style wise. That's actually useful to both authors, publishers and readers. A rare thing.

Ads anywhere other than that though, that's a hanging offence
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:08 AM   #17
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I remember when I was a teenager in the 1970s, advertising in paperbacks was very common. You'd have a page of cardboard with perforated edges in the middle of the book, with adverts for all sorts of things.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:16 AM   #18
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Apple requires absolutely no author ads promoting purchase of other items or directing you to a website to do so.

We want to use as little production time as possible doing this so we want to remove the ads across the board (Barnes & Noble, Amazon, Kobo, etc.). Those other distributors, however are not requiring that we remove the ads.

Our marketing department will most likely ask that they stay in the epub file being distributed to those companies, meaning a seperate epub file be sent to Apple. How do we convince them that this should be industry standard and the ads should just be removed across the board?

The only thing I can think of is conflict of interest because an ad may say the author's other books are available at amazon.com or barnesandnoble.com.
Ensure that the ads are implemented in a standard way, then hire a developer to create a script that removes those ads prior to submitting the books to Apple. I don't know much about how your system works, but this is very much doable given the structure of ePubs.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:39 AM   #19
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I remember when I was a teenager in the 1970s, advertising in paperbacks was very common. You'd have a page of cardboard with perforated edges in the middle of the book, with adverts for all sorts of things.
Ripping those out was the first thing I did after paying for the book that I just paid US$ 1.25 for
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:25 PM   #20
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Ripping those out was the first thing I did after paying for the book that I just paid US$ 1.25 for
I don't remember them being perforated, I remember having problems removing the heaver paper stock ads. I'd hate to have those sorts of ads in the middle of my ebooks.

Publishers have a long tradition of listing mini-catalogs of their books at the end of the book (for more than a century), so I don't mind a few pages of advertisement of other books by the author or publisher.
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:53 AM   #21
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It is about time for publishers to learn: 'i-won't' (do it)

Magazines/Newspapers have had ads for years. Even ads for other Magazines.

I hear Radio ads for TV Shows on the (parent) Competitors Network

Paperbacks carried ads for titles NOT stocked at my local bookstore.

A hyperlink causes no problem on my portable... It has no WiFi or 3 G

This is not just a walled garden, it is a Police state
Say NO
Apple not allowing hyperlinks in the iBookstore is *just like* the Gestapo kicking in your door at 3 a.m.?
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:42 AM   #22
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Publishers have a long tradition of listing mini-catalogs of their books at the end of the book (for more than a century), so I don't mind a few pages of advertisement of other books by the author or publisher.
I even ordered a few books that way, back before the internet. It always felt a bit risky and strange blindly mailing a list and money order to a faceless organization and getting a box of books a few months later, just after you'd forgotten about them. It wasn't convenient, but it had its pleasures.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:29 AM   #23
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So Apple won't allow a link to a purchase page in their own store? Just looking for clarification.
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:34 AM   #24
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I've got adverts for all my titles in the ones on Apple, including the one they banned. No links on any of them, I don't see the point of that. Even people likely to want to read anything I wrote are intelligent enough to figure it out for themselves.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:36 PM   #25
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How about including the first chapter of one of our other books at the end of an ebook? I do this so readers will be aware of the other book. I don't ask anyone to "purchase" or to "buy" the book. That should be obvious. I do include my email address in case anyone wishes to contact me directly.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:39 PM   #26
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How about including the first chapter of one of our other books at the end of an ebook? I do this so readers will be aware of the other book. I don't ask anyone to "purchase" or to "buy" the book. That should be obvious. I do include my email address in case anyone wishes to contact me directly.
Many authors do this. I never read the sample myself, but I don't see any harm in it (and it's not against Apple's rules).
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:57 PM   #27
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I remember when I was a teenager in the 1970s, advertising in paperbacks was very common. You'd have a page of cardboard with perforated edges in the middle of the book, with adverts for all sorts of things.
I used them for bookmarks.
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:59 PM   #28
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An intersting combinations of statements. Bitch about Apple and then say you won't buy another book by the author who puts ads where you don't like them.
Not really unless you see some connection between telling someone else what to do and making decisions for yourself. Apparently, you do see a connection.
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I like having a list of the author's other books. I don't mind if it says "available at" and lists a store.

I prefer to have any long reviews of other books, sample chapters, etc. placed at the end of the book, not at the beginning. It's really annoying to have to keep flipping past a bunch of extraneous stuff before I can get started reading.
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Many authors do this. I never read the sample myself, but I don't see any harm in it (and it's not against Apple's rules).
Don't see any real harm in it either, although it really can throw you off on the page count. When the book ending smacks you in the face and you were expecting that that last 'chapter' to actually be part of the story you're reading. I do find that kind of annoying at times, especially when I've just run into a cliff hanger by surprise. Ick.

I never, ever read those sample chapters. If it's the next book in the series, I'll either get it or I won't based on what I just read. Otherwise, I don't start anything I don't have complete, or haven't yet checked out the synopsis and reviews. Even in paper books, I never, ever read them.

A nice synopsis of other books I might browse, but never an actual chapter.

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