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Old 03-23-2013, 10:10 AM   #136
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Thanks, Peter. That is fun, and I did know the information before. My point was more along the lines of when did the move from refering to this corner of Europe as "[Great] Britain" and move towards "UK", and who drove it? No doubt the information is out there somewhere, but I'll just accept it for now.
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:30 PM   #137
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Thanks, Peter. That is fun, and I did know the information before. My point was more along the lines of when did the move from refering to this corner of Europe as "[Great] Britain" and move towards "UK", and who drove it? No doubt the information is out there somewhere, but I'll just accept it for now.
Don't know the dates exactly but "Great Britain" is essentially England, Scotland and Wales, the "United Kingdom" also includes Northern Ireland. "GB" is essentially a geographic grouping whilst "UK" is a political one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_kingdom gives a better explanation.

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Really, I was agreeing with you - the drop-down menus of locations, though coming from a different starting point, are the problem. I've thought back, and until computers became ubiquitous, I don't think the term "UK/United Kingdom" was really used. Our nationality is British, the government is British etc. So, where did this UK nonsense come from? Don't bother answering - this is sufficiently off-topic (again!) - let's keep it a rhetorical question!
I think that the UK term was used in the US, pre-internet age. And, since most of the internet standards are US derived...
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I think that the UK term was used in the US, pre-internet age. And, since most of the internet standards are US derived...
Said tongue firmly in cheek, I trust.
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Maybe in a few years time I'll have to use "Scotland" as the locale ...
You'll be long gone from Scotland by then



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Said tongue firmly in cheek, I trust.
Actually, not.
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:47 AM   #142
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Actually, not.
I find myself in agreement with murg. As I said earlier, I know the technical differences between "UK" and "GB", and have done for a long time. My point was, and remains, that when I was (much) younger, the term "United Kingdom" was hardly ever heard - it was "[Great] Britain". Something changed in the last 15-20 years, and it is probably, as murg says, to do with the internet, and, therefore, the USA-ns.
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[QUOTE=Mrs_Often;2462729]You'll be long gone from Scotland by then


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As I feel at the moment, that can't come too soon ...
So then, you'll be scot free?
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Actually, not.
Well in that case FYI the term was officially coined in 1801 when the parliaments of Ireland and England passed the "Act of Union" uniting the two kingdoms.

The term "United Kingdom" in my experience has been in common usage and interchangeably as far back as I can recall. Things and events that have reinforced usage have been the Northern Ireland troubles in the media, sporting events and such where we represent ourselves as the United Kingdom (just had a nostalgic cringe as I remembered "Jeux Sans Frontieres" there) and the fact it's stamped on the front of our passports. So common usage definitely predates the Internet and any potential American involvement

However I do think that the Internet has played it's part in making the use of "UK" reach greater prominence Worldwide simply by the expedient of being far easier to type/text
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Well in that case FYI the term was officially coined in 1801 when the parliaments of Ireland and England passed the "Act of Union" uniting the two kingdoms.

The term "United Kingdom" in my experience has been in common usage and interchangeably as far back as I can recall. Things and events that have reinforced usage have been the Northern Ireland troubles in the media, sporting events and such where we represent ourselves as the United Kingdom (just had a nostalgic cringe as I remembered "Jeux Sans Frontieres" there) and the fact it's stamped on the front of our passports. So common usage definitely predates the Internet and any potential American involvement

However I do think that the Internet has played it's part in making the use of "UK" reach greater prominence Worldwide simply by the expedient of being far easier to type/text
just to add to the confusion: in sporting events, you either have the individual countries (England, Scotland, Wales, NI), as for instance in football or snooker; or "team GB" if you talk Olympic games - no UK there...
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just to add to the confusion: in sporting events, you either have the individual countries (England, Scotland, Wales, NI), as for instance in football or snooker; or "team GB" if you talk Olympic games - no UK there...
Oh it's convoluted for sure, for example the Olympic "Team GB" is actually comprised of sports members from Great Britain and Northern Ireland so techically Team UK! Yet off the top of my head the aforementioned "Jeux Sans Frontieres" (or International "It's a Knockout" if you prefer) and the Eurovision Song contest both field representation from "United Kingdom". Go figure.
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But teamuk sounds like some obscure South Pacific island, or what's left in the bottom of the teapot.
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But teamuk sounds like some obscure South Pacific island, or what's left in the bottom of the teapot.
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