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Old 03-27-2013, 11:07 PM   #1
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Trying to fix typos and bad formatting

I'm not really experienced with this sort of thing, but I have been reading a horribly typo filled epub and finally decided to try and fix it. It's a public domain book (pretty sure in all countries), so I'm posting a copy here.

I tried using tweak book in calibre....so the first file has been edited....but go to page 143 out of 1114 in the calibre book viewer (not sure how else to mark the place), and it is in the original condition. I'm kind of mad I wasted the time in the first file as that is about how far I'd already read on my glo.

It seems it is one of those books that have been scanned, used a crappy OCR and that is it....since it's free and there aren't lots of copies of this book out there, I guess I can't complain....I had trouble enough finding this copy. BUT fixing it has been a real pain.

Even doing spell check is pretty annoying since there is a lot of french in the book as well as a lot of names of people and places that don't repeat. I don't even know if I could do the spell check if I didn't already know how this author writes and how his work is usually translated.

On top of typos, there are innummerable extra spaces *everywhere*....and sentences lopped in half with a new page and new paragraph marker. So I've been trying to do search and search and replace, but there are so many different cases.

So I guess the big question is, is there a simpler way to do what I've been doing?? I've spent hours just doing the first file and there are 8 or so. I could pretty much read it in the process. I'm not at all experienced at this type of thing, so maybe I'm missing something, or maybe this situation just requires this much work?

I also was curious about 2 formatting things:
1) the <p> and <p/> markers...is it the fact that the next ones are on a new line that is making the spaces appear between paragraphs on my glo?
2) there are randomly placed new pages using this code:
<div class="newpage" id="page-6"/>
Is that page ID info pertinent to counting pages using the ADE method, or is it a totally unnecessary new page that I can get rid of (especially since they are never anywhere near new chapters)

If an expert wants to take a look at one of the files (not part0000...unless you can correct my edited version even more ) and give me any tips on what methods would work best in this type of situation, I would really appreciate it.
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I've used an ePub to PDF converter, then used MS Word to fix up the spelling, formatting and other mistakes, then loaded it into Calibre to convert back into ePub. However, it's a very laborious and incredibly time-consuming exercise. Others may have better methods.
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:19 AM   #3
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When I fix books like this, I use Sigil. That allows me to see the epub and do search and replace across all files in it. For a book like this that probably an OCRed scan, that means I can fix the repeated mistakes easily. It also has a spelling checker, and you can add words or names to the list to ignore.

I use Tweak books in calibre for simple things. Mainly to edit the stylesheet or a single spelling mistake. Don't forget to press the "Rebuild" button. I've hit the cancel button or escape key a few times without thinking and wondered where the changes went.

Having the <p> tags start in a new line won't add spaces. From what I can see, the extra spaces are between the <p> and </p>. There are a lot wrapping the quotes and other punctuation. I know the first change I would be would be a global change of

Code:
<p> "
to
Code:
<p>"
And similar for quotes at the end of the paragraph. Fixing the broken paragraphs is a bit harder. Generally I only pick them up as I read. But, Sigil does have a saved search that can help. From memory, it looks for any end paragraph tags that have letter immediately before it.

The "<div class="newpage" id="page-405"/>" have probably been put there by the person who created the file to map back to the original book. The desktop ADE didn't seem to use them. As there isn't a definition of the "newpage" class, I don't think it will do anything. I have seen a similar thing in other books but they used an anchor tag.

Just remembered: I looked in the MR library for a copy of this. There is only a German version. Unless you are trying to match a paper copy you have, it might be useful to look at it to get ideas of the styles used and in to compare the punctuation.

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1) the <p> and <p/> markers...is it the fact that the next ones are on a new line that is making the spaces appear between paragraphs on my glo?
I don't know much about this either, but I think the space between paragraphs is because the default pararaph top/bottom margins are nonzero. You could change this by adding p{margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;text-indent:1em} (for example) to the stylesheet.css file.

None of this is really Kobo-specific, you might get more help in the epub forum.
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If an expert wants to take a look at one of the files (not part0000...unless you can correct my edited version even more ) and give me any tips on what methods would work best in this type of situation, I would really appreciate it.
Not an expert but spent a bit of time with Sigil to do some search and replace to clean up some of the more egregious errors. I also split the file into chapter files just to make it a bit easier to fiddle with them -- I really dislike ebooks where multiple chapters are in one file and the file splits are in the middle of chapters.

I inserted a more useful stylesheet which you might want to take a look at -- it's where I set up stuff like left justification, line spacing, spacing between paragraphs and other fun stuff like an inline-block display to allow centering images on ADE and it's equally braindead derivatives. I also added a cover image which is a bit easier to look at than a black block with a bar code.

This took about 20 minutes total. I've left most of the typographical errors for you to clean up since I didn't want to actually read the book.

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Old 03-28-2013, 10:38 AM   #7
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Thanks to all for your replies, especially davidfor and DNSB!

davidfor, I had read a lot of people saying sigil isn't supported any longer in linux, so I hadn't bothered looking into that before..but when you mentioned that I can do all the files together, I thought it was worth a look, and realised that they must have meant that the support is lacking compared to the past. So I was able to get an (albeit) older version installed this morning. I guess if I ever learn how to build from source code, I can do that as they do provide that. But this should work for now.
Thanks also for pointing out the german version, I'll take a look at that to give me ideas.

DNSB, thanks for going to the trouble of fixing up some of bigger mistakes....that's awesome! And yeah, it is pretty much a reading job to fix the OCR mistakes....and a pretty unenjoyable reading experience at that ...my brother gave me an OCRed (paper) version of a book and I wanted to shoot myself by the end of the book after trying to constantly figure out what word was meant.
I will look at the stylesheet...I don't know much about that at this point, so I guess I should learn, but d*** ignorance was supposed to be bliss!!!

Another question:
One weird thing did happen when I put the partially corrected version back on to my glo. Last night as I was reading the little section I'd corrected yesterday, but hadn't previously read, I stumbled upon a sentence that doesn't appear correctly on my glo.
"To avoid having to make the journey on horseback." (page 56 of 436 on my glo)
On the glo, it shows "To avoid having to make the journey on horse-"....
when I tried to highlight "horse-"...it came up as horseback in the dictionary, but with the markers being off screen, and not showing the word as highlighted. When I highlight that sentence and the next, the highlighting works normally, and when I go into annotations, the whole sentence is there, but it never shows the rest of the word on my screen. Did I mistakenly delete something in the coding, or is this some other issue? How can I fix it, anyone know? The half of the word is not missing when I use the calibre viewer.

Edit: when I look at in Sigil, I don't see anything strange with the word horseback in that sentence...so it seems to be something else
I tried changing the font size to be smaller, and it shows the whole word. But when I change the font size to be bigger again, it doesn't show it.
When I changed the font (this time to caecilia) and the whole sentence fit again on one line, it showed, but when I enlarged that font so that it wouldn't fit on one line, it once again cut off the 2nd half of the word.
I tried a few fonts, and as soon as I made them big enough to not fit the sentence on one line, the same thing happened.
I haven't seen this happen before....seems quite strange.
Any ideas?

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Old 03-28-2013, 11:14 AM   #8
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The missing word (or part of a word) is an issue I have raised numerous times in the Kobo beta test, to an overwhelming silence.

I've even supplied a one page test case that demonstrates it too them.

it appears to be dependent on font and font size.
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I've used an ePub to PDF converter, then used MS Word to fix up the spelling, formatting and other mistakes, then loaded it into Calibre to convert back into ePub. However, it's a very laborious and incredibly time-consuming exercise. Others may have better methods.
That's like using a chainsaw to operate on someone to remove an appendix.

Just edit the ePub and forget PDF even exists.
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The missing word (or part of a word) is an issue I have raised numerous times in the Kobo beta test, to an overwhelming silence.

I've even supplied a one page test case that demonstrates it too them.

it appears to be dependent on font and font size.
ah ok. annoying, but glad I didn't cause it!

Thanks for letting me know, I won't waste time trying to fix it!

Edit: Interestingly, I just sent DNSB's copy to my glo and that problem doesn't arise. The word properly goes onto a second line when the font is enlarged.

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I also added a cover image which is a bit easier to look at than a black block with a bar code.
I see the cover image when I open in Sigil and when I use the viewer in Calibre....Maybe I'm just being stupid, but when I go into the metadata, it doesn't show that as the cover....it just shows the black with barcode, the same when I load it to my glo.
The copy I uploaded here on MR, I had just done the "generate cover" thing in metadata, so I had an ok cover on my glo. But obviously the cover you added is better, I just am unaware of how to make that cover visible.

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Still curious to know what I did wrong, but I ended up just copying the cover in the metadata of the german version that davidfor pointed out (which of course is the same as you added)

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Just remembered: I looked in the MR library for a copy of this. There is only a German version. Unless you are trying to match a paper copy you have, it might be useful to look at it to get ideas of the styles used and in to compare the punctuation.
This is turning out to be super helpful, as I read german (but for obvious reasons don't want to just read an orginally french book in german!) and I can easily check when the OCR mistakes are unintelligible or for unknown names/places! So thanks again!

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Did you download the original from Archives.org ?

If so then it's not surprising that there is a lot of poor formatting as the OCR'd text in those books was really intended to provide a text search layer for the DJVU (and perhaps PDF) versions so the text hasn't been cleaned up before they used some process to reformat it as EPUB. You sometimes find whole pages that have missed being OCRd - the original image shows up in the DJVU but is not mapped to any text.

The point here is that something like OpenOffice/LibreOffice is an ideal way to edit the basic words, sentences etc in the document without having to worry about the html markup in search & replace.

My approach for these books is to download the text file and then use OpenOffice to edit it using a set of macros for general text tidying then either import the resultant .odt file into Calibre or use the W2Epub extension to produce the EPUB.

I think the d/l'd text files are in markdown format so you could do an initial conversion to extract headers etc using some other s/w or use macros to translate headings etc. Exporting the text using a DJVU viewer gives simple text without the markup. I'm pretty sure that neither have any italic or bold formatting in the extracted text and the only way to re-introduce them is simply by comparing the image version with the corresponding text. It's a painful process as I know, and one made worse if your book is full of dialect or foreign words which shows up as mis-spelling.

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I see the cover image when I open in Sigil and when I use the viewer in Calibre....Maybe I'm just being stupid, but when I go into the metadata, it doesn't show that as the cover....it just shows the black with barcode, the same when I load it to my glo.
The copy I uploaded here on MR, I had just done the "generate cover" thing in metadata, so I had an ok cover on my glo. But obviously the cover you added is better, I just am unaware of how to make that cover visible.

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Still curious to know what I did wrong, but I ended up just copying the cover in the metadata of the german version that davidfor pointed out (which of course is the same as you added)
I'd suspect that I did not update the contents.opf file to say that the new cover image was the cover image. Yes, just checked and that was what I hadn't done.

Look for this line:

<meta content="cover-image" name="cover" />

and replace it with:

<meta content="cover" name="cover" />

and Calibre should show the correct cover.

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