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Old 02-28-2013, 06:15 PM   #316
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Some good points. But, the fact that I am not interested in Harry Potter has been returned with sneers from several people that I know. If one likes it fine. Currently :

The immortal life of Henrietta Lacks, Quiet(A book about introverts), Life of Pi (apparently famous and a film, but never heard of it in this icy corner of Asia), Just finished God is not Great, my last five:

1. Decisions for War, 1914–1917 Richard F. Hamilton, Holger H. Herwig. 284 pages. (4 stars)

2. Inside Delta Force by Eric Haney 256 pages. (2.5 stars)

3. The inheritance of Loss by Kiran Desai. 384 pages. (3 stars)
Booker prize and all but a bit too convoluted at times.

4. How an Economy Grows and why it crashes by Peter D. Shiff and Andrew J. Shiff. 258 pages. (3 Stars). Some interesting Points even though I disagree with some of their views.

5. Solaris by Stanislaw Lem 224 pages. (4.5 stars). best book that I have read thus far.

Hope to speed up in the next two months have a lot of free time. Happy Reading Everyone.

P.S. I live Brain Candy too. Love slapstick and brainless films at times... Jackie Chan, Top Secret, bad B-movies. But Some Jurrasic no thanks....
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Old 02-28-2013, 06:29 PM   #317
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Some good points. But, the fact that I am not interested in Harry Potter has been returned with sneers from several people that I know. If one likes it fine. Currently :

The immortal life of Henrietta Lacks, Quiet(A book about introverts), Life of Pi (apparently famous and a film, but never heard of it in this icy corner of Asia), Just finished God is not Great, my last five:

1. Decisions for War, 1914–1917 Richard F. Hamilton, Holger H. Herwig. 284 pages. (4 stars)

2. Inside Delta Force by Eric Haney 256 pages. (2.5 stars)

3. The inheritance of Loss by Kiran Desai. 384 pages. (3 stars)
Booker prize and all but a bit too convoluted at times.

4. How an Economy Grows and why it crashes by Peter D. Shiff and Andrew J. Shiff. 258 pages. (3 Stars). Some interesting Points even though I disagree with some of their views.

5. Solaris by Stanislaw Lem 224 pages. (4.5 stars). best book that I have read thus far.

Hope to speed up in the next two months have a lot of free time. Happy Reading Everyone.

P.S. I live Brain Candy too. Love slapstick and brainless films at times... Jackie Chan, Top Secret, bad B-movies. But Some Jurrasic no thanks....
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:53 PM   #318
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Cheers mates..will try both Lem's to add to my 100 book Cliff I am attempting to climb.... this year....
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:38 AM   #319
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Does location play a part in reading snobbery?

My answer is 'Yes,' at least in my experience.

Perhaps your experience verifies this, as well? Or perhaps not for you?

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I lived for many years in the Tokyo area. Nearly everyone there commutes by public transport, and until the advent of mobile phones, nearly everyone read on the train. Newspapers, the racing form, tabloids, paperbacks, English books, textbooks, magazines, manga, even dictionaries. Your fellow straphangers would shove their reading choices in your face. Literally. Japanese commuter trains are too crowded for snobbery.

When i was there, Japan didn't have so much of the cultural Narodism one finds in the US (and which underlies the reverse snobbism i brough up upthread). On the other hand, since a book was to some degree just a book, there was also less to be gained from posing with Finnegan's wake at the local kissaten (cafe).

I've also lived in Montreal, where there's a sharper sense of class, cultural & linguistic divisions. I did have a sense that reading or one's choice in reading material might be read as a marker of one divide or another. It may have, but that sort of interpretation of my choice in reading was never brought to my attention.

The upstate NY town where i lived for a few years was an academic fishbowl. People noticed everything. "I saw X reading Y at Z yesterday. Pah! Such trash!"
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Some of that stuff sounds aimed at the female market. I read some J.D.Robb and Nalini Singh. I thought they both had a lot of merit, but I don't generally much enjoy detective stories (J.D.Robb, though she's clearly a gifted writer), and Nalini Singh was very well constructed, but it ultimately it didn't push my buttons. Perhaps because I am male.

I like YA stuff a lot though, when it's well written.
As a female i do tend to go for stuff aimed at the female market

but will try anything, for instance loved the Harry Potter series and was looking forward to reading her 'adult' novel and hated it and gave up
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:16 AM   #321
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I don't like slapstick Lem at all, I won't read Cyberiad.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:25 AM   #322
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I don't like slapstick Lem at all, I won't read Cyberiad.
Different people, different tastes...<shrug>
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:09 AM   #323
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I enjoy Lem's Ijon Tichy stories. Fast and fun read.

Must go and get them now.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:13 AM   #324
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What we have been talking about a lot here is genre snobs.

But what about intellectual snobs?

In UK there is a sort of intellectual snobbery related to class (always a key issue in UK), whereby the height of an imaginary reader's forehead is invoked.

High brow, middle brow, airport novels.

This is a form of class coding, I think. Highbrow books are read by public school old boys (and girls), university professors, and judges of literary prizes.

Middle brow books are read by lower-and middle-middle class people who "think they are reading Literature."

The rest read airport novels. Presumably they don't have brows.

A version of this runs in Australia. Half a century ago the leading lights of "literature" in Australia, or at least Victoria, were Vance Palmer and his missus. Vance Palmer won this literary prize and that literary prize, was toasted in the media... Way down the bottom of the totem pole was Arthur Upfield who wrote detective stories.

Today Upfield is still in print, still enjoyed. Upfield earned a living as a writer. The Palmers didn't; they were well heeled. The Palmers are forgotten, but Upfield lives on, triumphant.

(Upfield had fun satirising this setup in one of his Bony detective novels; the Palmers appeared, thinly disguised, and he himself appeared, also thinly disguised. The book was called "An Author Bites the Dust."
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A picture just came across my FB feed this morning - I can't figure out how to include a picture here without a url for the picture.

The cartoon showed three seriousl looking people in black, labeled "Proper Literature" going "tut tut tut. On a hill near them is a Buck Rogers-y character labeled Science Fiction, saying "you're just jealous of my jet pack."

Oh, yeah.
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A picture just came across my FB feed this morning - I can't figure out how to include a picture here without a url for the picture.

The cartoon showed three seriousl looking people in black, labeled "Proper Literature" going "tut tut tut. On a hill near them is a Buck Rogers-y character labeled Science Fiction, saying "you're just jealous of my jet pack."

Oh, yeah.
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Yes! How do you get the picture in there?
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Found the image online and used the images URL to link to the image using [img] tags.
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hm. I have pictures of a cover my daughter made for my PW that I'd like to post, but can't figure out how people upload pictures that aren't on the web.

Oh, well - back to the main topic of conversation. Sorry for the tangent.
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hm. I have pictures of a cover my daughter made for my PW that I'd like to post, but can't figure out how people upload pictures that aren't on the web.

Oh, well - back to the main topic of conversation. Sorry for the tangent.
Upload the photo someplace online like Photobucket. That or use the manage attachments button (under additional options) when you post and add it to you post that way.
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