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Old 02-20-2013, 12:29 PM   #31
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OT: I did not know anything about Prop 65, but sounds to me like the State of California is looking out for its consumers: you can't change your habits if informatiom is being withheld from you. Too bad RI doesn't give a crap about us!
While I agree in principle, there's is a happy medium, and California is nowhere near it. When you get too ridiculous with warnings about everything - a strict interpretation of Prop 65 would literally require a warning about the air, you get so overloaded that all warnings become meaningless.

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In RI, we don't even get all the information about medication! While in Europe we get a huge sheet of paper with very, very, very fine print (read: all the information that comes with the medication), in RI they give you a business sized piece of photocopied paper with the one or two paragraphs the State requires them to inform you about. It's disgusting.
You do, at least, have the internet. Google is the sum of all human knowledge. It's a lot easier to do a little research and get info that'sm issing than to dig through a mountain of useless info for what matters.
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:36 PM   #32
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What makes you think this is an accident?
As an example, if they made $0.10 per book collecting illegal sales tax on 10,000,000 books that is $1,000,000.00 a day. And before you say they do not sell 1,000,000 books a day to California residents, who is to say California is the only state they are doing this in. This is just an example but, they could be making a lot of money doing this. And the majority of people will never notice.
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I am confident they pass the collected sales tax over to the state. Penalties for withholding collected sales tax are severe. On the other hand, the state isn't very motivated to punish or even investigate 'over compliance'.

Also I doubt they handle very much business, otherwise it would become a significant customer service issue and eat into their profits. The majority of people will just buy the books on Amazon B&N, Apple, Google, Kobo because that's more convenient and except for the $9.99 deals that they currently run, it is usually cheaper to do so.
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:04 PM   #33
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Speaking of silly laws how about it being illegal for kids to blow out candles on a birthday cake in school.
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:29 PM   #34
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Peanuts???

How did the thread suddenly become about peanuts?
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:22 PM   #35
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I'm sure they see it that way. It might even be true. But it's also possible that, like TV news and conspiracy theorists, they are needless creating fear, uncertainty and doubt by spreading needless warnings, about questionably researched, ultra-low-probability effects.
The same arguments were made by the tobacco industry before, not too long ago.

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Tell me: have you ever changed your mind about buying something because of those labels?

Same for medications. Would you refuse to take a needed medication because of those low-probability side effect warnings? I'm not saying they should be removed, I just question their value over trusting the prescribing physician.

One specialist told me outright when he prescribed a med and I asked about the side effects: "If I told you all the possible side effects, you'd never take it. In twenty years of prescribing it, I've never seen ANY of the side effects. Please take it."

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Yes and yes. When the study that uncovered the existance of acrylamides became known, then confirmed, my entire familiy changed eating habits. Perhaps one is more willing to make those changes when a family member is dealing with cancer, but the switch was a no-brainer for us.

I have indeed refrained from taking medication after reading the smallprint. That should be my choice to make after being given all information, it is not right to withhold it from me - I am not a child.

Also, I would not trust a healthcare professional who'd give me this type of answer.

PS: Sorry, I will stick to the sales tax topic henceforth.

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Old 02-20-2013, 10:10 PM   #36
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I'm what my doctor calls a .01% responder - if there's a strange side effect going around, I'll get it - you know, the kind of side effect that's listed in 6 point type on the information sheets. You better beiieve that I want to know about them!

true story: one day, my feet swelled up like balloons and my toes like sausages. My doc coudn't figure out why and since one of the reasons for it is kidney failure, and since I have compromised kidney functioning, I was sent to the ER. Nobody could find anything wrong with me, so I was sent home. The next doctor's appointment I had, we were doing a med review, and it turns out that the blood pressure medication (which I can't spell much less pronounce) has swollen extremities as a side effect. If I'd known that before the ER trip, it would have saved ever so much pain and worry.
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Speaking of silly laws how about it being illegal for kids to blow out candles on a birthday cake in school.
[url]http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/australian-kids-banned-birthday-tradition-school-181900033.html/url]
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It seems that it's not illegal, and it's not new advice. What it is - media running silly scare stories that no-one will check their sources on. (Apparently).
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