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Old 02-20-2013, 11:33 AM   #31
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I'm cool if there's always a nag screen when you're saving invalid code. I just don't want there to be any possible way for me to accidentally save invalid code without knowing it. That would pose far more of a danger IMO (unless there's also a nag screen when opening an epub with invalid code).
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:34 AM   #32
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An easy path would be saving as .zip (except that it may encourage renaming to .epub)
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:15 PM   #33
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An easy path would be saving as .zip (except that it may encourage renaming to .epub)
I like the idea of saving it with a zip extension, so long as Sigil can read a zip file extension as input, even if it is a set of html and images and not just a bad ePub. Having it be a zip avoids accidentally thinking its an ePub and allows simple disassembly to fix the problems outside of Sigil.

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Old 02-20-2013, 03:27 PM   #34
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But it is still an epub. A book might not be well-written, but it's still a book. The epub may not have valid xhtml in it, or pass epubcheck, but its still an epub.

It seems likely that Sigil will be modified to save/open any .epub without the ability to have it automatically cleaned (though it would still be re-arranged into 'standard' folders), and require you to check/clean it as you do with Validate.
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:05 AM   #35
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The epub may not have valid xhtml in it, or pass epubcheck, but its still an epub.
That's arguable. If it doesn't comply with the epub spec, it shouldn't be called an epub. It's an attempt of an epub, it's a wannabe epub, and it might happen that some epub readers can open it, but it's not a real epub. At least, that a possible and logical view.
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Having turned off all automatic cleaning options (I normally had Pretty Print enabled on Open, Save and Global S & R) I opened a commercially published epub and received a warning message and a long list of errors. Presumably, with the default setting, PrettyPrint would have silently made modifications? Rather alarming!
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Presumably, with the default setting, PrettyPrint would have silently made modifications? Rather alarming!
What sorts of "modifications"? I was under the impression that PP only does cosmetic-type changes and minor code fixes like closing tags. Tidy is what makes major changes right??
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But it is still an epub. A book might not be well-written, but it's still a book. The epub may not have valid xhtml in it, or pass epubcheck, but its still an epub.
This has been my experience. Both Amazon and B&N accept epubs that do not pass epubcheck, and that Apple (via Lulu) rejects for that reason.

And note that Flight Crew is not as picky as epubcheck. I have learned to run all my epubs through epubcheck, and more often than note epubcheck flags an error (usually insiginificant, but still an error that would cause the book to be rejected by Apple) that Flight Crew missed. Often these are phantom images introduced by word2cleanhtml.com (<img src="xxx"></a>. More recently it was a "fragment" in the OPF file.

The uncompliant books work just fine in the Kindle etc and the Nook, just as my web pages from 1992 work just fine in Internet Explorer, Chrome, and Firefox even though they don't come close to validating.
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