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Old 02-17-2013, 06:07 PM   #1
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Zweig, Stefan: The World of Yesterday. v1. 17 Feb 2013

Stefan Zweig's gripping description of how the prosperous, optimistic, cultured Europe of his youth descended into chaos and brutality as seen through his own eyes.

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Old 02-18-2013, 05:17 AM   #2
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I wonder if this is actually public domain. Zweig died in 1942, but this work is probably translated (at least there are editions with a "new translation", which would be unlikely had Zweig written it in English himseld). However, it is available in The Internet Archive, and there's no indication of a translator...
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:57 AM   #3
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...in which case, when creator or contributor is anonymous, the copyright extends for 50 years from year of publishing, does it not?
Neither does it seem like any pages are missing in the Internet Archive scan which I used as source.
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...in which case, when creator or contributor is anonymous, the copyright extends for 50 years from year of publishing, does it not?
Um, I don't know if it would better here if I hadn't googled this, but the translators are apparently Benjamin W. Huebsch and Helmut Ripperger. I say apparently because, although I have not examined the physical book, the lack of library catalog entry mentions of the translator, and of course what you say in #3 above, leads me to think that the translator(s) are not mentioned inside the book.

WorldCat gives a date of death for Benjamin W. Huebsch of 1964:
http://www.worldcat.org/title/b-w-hu...=brief_results

This would imply Canada copyright expires, I'm afraid, on January 1, 2015.

As for Helmut Ripperger, I couldn't find a firm source for his date of death, but, well, there was a gentleman of that name who died in New York -- the location of the Viking Press -- in 1974:

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/s...gss=seo&ghc=20

Does that mean it's still under copyright even in life + 50 countries like Canada, and certainly under copyright in life + 70 countries like Norway? Maybe not. Read this:

http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/b...tml#P127_22000

The question seems to be -- did the anonymous Viking Press translators later disclose their identity? Or was their identity only discovered after their death, perhaps by a scholar examining an archive? The answer could turn on the legal definition of disclosure. That I don't know.

There's no question, in my mind, that archive.org and SBT acted in good faith. Or that MobileRead should take it down if one of the children of the translators write in to object. Beyond that, and the certainty it is under copyright in the United States, I'm flummoxed.

EDITED: Author and then-anonymous translator:


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Old 02-18-2013, 12:24 PM   #5
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Hmm... does indeed look as though Ripperberger did not pass beyond the veil until 1974:
http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-no98-69506.
Darn, looks as if I haven't done my homework properly on this one. Isn't copyright legislation fun...
However, did the Messrs. Huebsch and Ripperberger translate this work for hire? In that case, doesn't the copyright belong to the publisher, and corporate copyright expires 50/70 years after publication.
Here I found the copyright for the 1943 U.S. edition assigned to Viking, does that indicate that the translation is a corporate copyright there, in any case?
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However, did the Messrs. Huebsch and Ripperberger translate this work for hire? In that case, doesn't the copyright belong to the publisher, and corporate copyright expires 50/70 years after publication.
I'm confused by your phrase "for hire." But I'll report what I found.

Googling the translators, they both had interesting careers.

According to Wikipedia, Huebsch was the first publisher in the United States of James Joyce and D. H. Lawrence.

And according to a Margaret Sanger web page:
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He merged his publishing venture with Viking Press in 1925 and began introducing American readers to such European writers as Stefan Zweig, Erich Maria Remarque and Thomas Mann.
So I wouldn't say Huebsch translated for hire, but rather that he translated because he was part-owner of the publishing firm. Or maybe he had sold his stake and was being kept on as an employee. Either way, his participation was perhaps similar (or identical!) to that of a book editor who works with an author, heavily rewrites the manuscript, and doesn't thereby get to be counted in a life + 50 or life + 70 calculation.

The other translator, Helmut Ripperger, is mentioned in a number of New York Times articles. Unfortunately they are behind paywalls. Many US public library patrons, including myself, are given a code so we can read them for free, and I will now summarize.

Ripperger was an early translator of Mein Kampf. The motive was to expose Hitler.

Ripperger -- yes, I'm sure, it's the same Ripperger -- wrote at least five cookbooks, co-authoring one with Simone Beck, who co-authored another cookbook with Julia Child (the last being a household name here in the US).

According to the October 20, 1938 New York Times, Ripperger had recently become a registered foreign agent for Japan. (Yes, the same Ripperger. Is this a plot for a novel?) According to his August 6, 1974 Times obituary, Ripperger was a "consultant" for something called the "Japanese Reference Library" from 1938 to 1941. When the translation of The World of Yesterday appeared in 1943, the fact of Ripperger's recent employment by what had become an extremely unpopular enemy of the United States could easily have been found by looking up his name in the 1938 New York Times Index, a thick annual found, then and now, in all but the smallest US public libraries. One wonders if this had anything to do with the lack of translator credits on the World of Yesterday title page -- although I'd like to think it did not.

Ripperger worked with a variety of publishers, not just Viking.

I've found no hint of how Huebsch compensated him (employee, author's advance, etc.) for The World of Yesterday.

I still have found no evidence that the identifies of these translators were publicly disclosed in their lifetimes. I'm at least hoping that means my googling AKA snooping has failed to find any reason your contribution to the Clark library shouldn't remain -- so I can legally download it next time I'm outside the US. Then, I'm not a lawyer.

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Thank you so much for providing this book, which recently climbed to the top of my TBR list. It's a fascinating account of a momentous period when the world changed forever, written by a fascinating man of whom I had only vaguely heard. If there was an award for the best ebook of the year this one would get my vote.
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