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Old 02-12-2013, 08:31 AM   #106
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You don't need to take photos of the Paperwhite. Tap the upper right corner and the lower left at the same time. The screen flashes and a screenshot saved to the root.
Doesn't work in kterm. What does work though is issuing the screenshot comand since you already have a shell open.

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Wow. those really are small buttons aren't they.

I see it now. I should overlay that one next.

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I did similar test: x11vnc on kindle, Chicken VNC client. Everything works ok. I don't think it is a kterm issue. Something goes wrong on the way. Anyway you have already found a solution.
Lol. Great I should go buy a mac. hehehe
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Oh man. Knowing about fill="true" went a long way to fixing the spacing. After a bunch of fiddling, I got the keyboard you see in the picture below (on the Paperwhite, no less). I removed the keys that I thought weren't useful enough to keep, giving the remaining keys much more room. Attached is also the kterm/layouts/keyboard.xml I made.

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Oh man. Knowing about fill="true" went a long way to fixing the spacing. After a bunch of fiddling, I got the keyboard you see in the picture below (on the Paperwhite, no less). I removed the keys that I thought weren't useful enough to keep, giving the remaining keys much more room. Attached is also the kterm/layouts/keyboard.xml I made.

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Lol. it would be nice to have a list of what you elided

Excellent work however. perhaps this could be available on all devices as an "alt" keyboard layout. maybe even switchable.. anyways. good one.

Glad you got it sorted.
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Old 02-12-2013, 05:34 PM   #112
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Perhaps the keyboard layout should be settable via config or command line option? (The latter would also allow for custom controls for programs started with -e via the launcher.)
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:48 PM   #113
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Perhaps the keyboard layout should be settable via config or command line option? (The latter would also allow for custom controls for programs started with -e via the launcher.)
It is settable by a config file -
File is attached to the post you did not quote.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:32 PM   #114
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It is settable by a config file -
File is attached to the post you did not quote.
I mean kterm's config file

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To clarify: kterm has the location of matchbox keyboard's config file hard coded. I'm suggesting that the location should be also exposed to users via kterm's config file and the command line, allowing for the switch of keyboard layouts without having to alter or move the config file at the default location.

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Since it was easy to implement this, I went and did it. The latest commit on github lets you specify the MB keyboard conf path either with "kb_conf_path = ..." in kterm.conf or with the -l (for layout) command line option.

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Old 02-12-2013, 09:57 PM   #115
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Oh man. Knowing about fill="true" went a long way to fixing the spacing. After a bunch of fiddling, I got the keyboard you see in the picture below (on the Paperwhite, no less). I removed the keys that I thought weren't useful enough to keep, giving the remaining keys much more room. Attached is also the kterm/layouts/keyboard.xml I made.

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I like that. Which keys did you eliminate?
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I got rid of page up, page down, home, end and the separate @ key (I made it the shift-modified version of 2, since that's what it is on American keyboards). I also moved the up arrow key to the bottom row and rearranged the order of all the arrows.
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New kterm package is available.
It includes command line and config parameter for specifying alternate keyboard layout. (by Fvek)
I also included in the package keyboard layout for wide screen (by cubemike99). It should be automatically picked up for Paperwhite.
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I got rid of page up, page down, home, end and the separate @ key (I made it the shift-modified version of 2, since that's what it is on American keyboards). I also moved the up arrow key to the bottom row and rearranged the order of all the arrows.
ARGH, just noticed that you also got rid of the ESC key. That won't do for me - have to patch that back in with ESC-key. Using ctrl-[ to escape out in vi would work though, but not as nice as a seperate key. Doesn't have to be on top - next to space would be fine.

Will have a look this weekend to make me a wide and non-wide us-dvorak key-layout. If they turn out nice, will post them here.
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Had some fun with trial and error and reading examples and more trial and error and this:

Finally I came up with a keyboard layout for kterm that works. This is the first draft version. Only Normal keys and shifted and capslock work so far, the extra symbols are not implemented yet - the buttons exist, but does not change anything yet.

Please note, that this version might NOT work on Kindle Touch, as baf mentioned that using no images for buttons crashes the matchbox keyboard. On the PW this all works - it only uses: tab, capslock, shift, ctrl, alt, a/F, A/L, return, arrow-keys from the images. The rest the keyboard puts in itself. Just to verify, please someone test this on a KT. If it does not work, I will make another version with images.

Todo: finish this layout with extra keys, make compatible for KT (if it doesn't work), do the whole hula-loop again for a more standard Qwerty layout.

Feedback welcome.

Attached is the layout that can be dropped in as is on PW (tested), and 3 screenshots with normal, shifted, capslocked screenies. Please make sure to make a copy of the normal keyboard-wide.xml before copying this one over. Please see update note 2.

UPDATE: Unfortunately no images still does not work on Touch, even with 5.3.2. - thank you twobob for testing.

UPDATE2: Removed the attached xml file. I am much more happy with the result in post #126. That one has potential to work on the Touch.
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will have alook now.

if it is anything like last time the text will be stupid large.

Gimme sec.

[root@kindle kterm]# ./bin/kterm
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*** glibc detected *** /mnt/us/extensions/kterm/bin/matchbox-keyboard: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x00054380 ***
Aborted
matchbox-keyboard failed to return valid window ID
: No such file or directory
surprisingly epic fail.

just fails to start. Digging reveals the above

Further digging:

[root@kindle kterm]# ./bin/matchbox-keyboard
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matchbox-keyboard: *Error* Couldn't find a keyboard config file
am I missing something? I tried it as keyboard-wide.xml and keyboard.xml.
will check lines endings didnt get mangled or something really stupid by me
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