Clark Ashton Smith—Ultimate Weird Tales Collection—133 Stories for 1.99 (Amazon/B&N) - Page 3

jgaiser · 11-11-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by atidball

The Nightshade CAS collected works are now available at webscription here. Price for the bundle is $25, but at least these are more likely to be legit.

Just going to point these out myself. I'm a fan of H.P. Lovecraft and at $25 for what purports to be a complete collected works was too good to pass up.

Dr. Drib · 11-12-2011, 08:23 AM

All this stuff is free, and really no reason to buy it.

Hodgeson is available for free from MobileRead and numerous other sites.

....all free.

Don

Critteranne · 11-12-2011, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Drib

All this stuff is free, and really no reason to buy it.

Hodgeson is available for free from MobileRead and numerous other sites.

....all free.

Don

The editions offered through Baen are the texts of the Night Shade Books editions. Some people prefer those editions because the books were well-edited. The SF Site Review calls the paper edition "typo-free." Wow.

I don't know if the ebook editions are as well put together, but that seems like a promising start.

Also, from the sample on Baen's site, the illustrations are really nifty:
http://www.webscription.net/chapters...3670.htm?blurb

The Night Shade Hodgson books include a section called "A Note on the Texts." I wanted to read that to know more about their sources, etc. However, it's at the very end, so it's not in the sample chapters.

As far as the CAS stories go, the Night Shade edition again looks like one where the editors went to a lot of trouble to get the texts "right." With stories originally published in magazines or by popular presses, there were often changes made that the authors didn't want. (Even Zane Grey's novels were censored.) The free versions generally use the magazine versions of the stories, but editions like these often restore texts so that readers can get the version the author actually wanted to tell.

NightBird · 11-12-2011, 07:51 PM

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With stories originally published in magazines or by popular presses, there were often changes made that the authors didn't want.

Not necessarily a bad thing.

rogerVA · 11-12-2011, 10:27 PM

I have the complete CAS and Hodgson in the hardcover Night Shade editions. One reason to buy the ebooks is to support the publisher and keep them going.

JeremyR · 11-12-2011, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NightBird

Not necessarily a bad thing.

For short stories, it usually is, actually. Because even a little change can be well, a big change. And people are buying the book because they like the author, not the editor.

And bear in mind the Nightshade stuff did correct spelling and such.

And what's also nice is all the notes on the stories and such (though I'm not sure how well these work in ebook fromat).

Personally, I have all the CAS Nightshade stuff in hardback and it was worth every penny. $25 is a steal for all the ebooks.

Granted, only about half the stories are good (his SF stuff was awful) but they are really good. When he was at his best, he was as good as anyone.

kwork · 02-03-2013, 01:13 PM

Another plug for the CAS and Hodgson ebooks from Baen. More than well worth the money. My only wish is that the fantasy stories would have been grouped by the world they take place in, but a small quibble at best.

crich70 · 02-03-2013, 02:10 PM

There is also at least one ebook site where the C.A. Smith stories are available for free. I forget where it is at the moment. It was posted here at MR some time back.

Dr. Drib · 02-03-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by crich70

There is also at least one ebook site where the C.A. Smith stories are available for free. I forget where it is at the moment. It was posted here at MR some time back.

It's hidden.

If you PM me, I'll try to remember where.

Don

jgaiser · 02-03-2013, 06:34 PM

Wikisource has a number of short stories as well as The Eldritch Dark website. As they're still not legal in the United States, I won't post a link, but for those with "Life plus 50", they're available.

Myself, I purchased the 6 book series from Baen.

pstjmack · 02-04-2013, 04:43 AM

Generally I'd be in favour of a publisher producing a for-cash edition of copyright-free material already available on the internet - if they can show some value add. This probably is such a case - as long as the original source is properly credited with its terms of use properly adhered to, and reimbursed where appropriate. Admittedly, if The Eldritch Dark wasn't already there and already so wonderful, CAS lovers would have even more cause to celebrate. But in this case, I'd be less inclined to debate copyright adherence than crediting the source and terms of use.

HarryT · 02-04-2013, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pstjmack

Generally I'd be in favour of a publisher producing a for-cash edition of copyright-free material already available on the internet - if they can show some value add. This probably is such a case - as long as the original source is properly credited with its terms of use properly adhered to, and reimbursed where appropriate. Admittedly, if The Eldritch Dark wasn't already there and already so wonderful, CAS lovers would have even more cause to celebrate. But in this case, I'd be less inclined to debate copyright adherence than crediting the source and terms of use.

But it's not "copyright free". Mr Ashton Smith died in 1961 - his work is still very much protected by copyright everywhere that has a "life+70" copyright law, such as both your country and mine have. Downloading his work, or reading the stories on the internet, is as much copyright infringement as downloading any other pirated work would be.

kwork · 02-08-2013, 01:01 AM

LOL, Harry, this amuses me. So, even though the Eldritch Dark website has the blessing of the CAS estate for printing the stories on their website, it's still illegal? from the ED site at
http://eldritchdark.com/about

"Permission has been granted for the non-profit use of Clark Ashton Smith material on The Eldritch Dark website by - CASiana (the Estate of Clark Ashton Smith) and Arkham House."

HarryT · 02-08-2013, 01:13 AM

No, obviously if it's been done with the permission of the copyright holder it's fine. But the claim was made in an earlier post that these works were out of copyright, which they are not.

Dr. Drib · 02-08-2013, 06:41 AM

Do the Night Shade ebook editions have working TOCs at the front end of each ebook?

If so, I may have to borrow some money from Harry.

Don

11-12-2011, 08:23 AM	#32
Dr. Drib Grand Sorcerer Posts: 21,960 Karma: 7572235 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Borja (Lima), Peru Device: Pcktbk 360; Kindle Paperwhite (WiFi)/ Fire HD; nook STR & Col; KoboGlo	All this stuff is free, and really no reason to buy it. Hodgeson is available for free from MobileRead and numerous other sites. ....all free. Don __________________ “How to Write the First 3 Paragraphs of YOUR Indie Novel” - by Max Waxwelp 1) Always write 3 sentences of exposition; 2) now create some dialogue, preferably no more than 2 sentences; and 3) make certain the dialogue is either inane or humorous. Example: “Bob, I did not know you wore yellow suspenders,” Sally remarked. “Gee, Sally, those are not suspenders. I am wearing yellow underwear today,” Bob revealed. The dialogue above will help produce at least 100 more pages of dialogue.

02-03-2013, 06:34 PM	#40
jgaiser Omnivorous Posts: 2,281 Karma: 13659891 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rural NW Oregon Device: Kindle GDX, Kindle 3, KPW, Nook HD+	Wikisource has a number of short stories as well as The Eldritch Dark website. As they're still not legal in the United States, I won't post a link, but for those with "Life plus 50", they're available. Myself, I purchased the 6 book series from Baen. __________________ Jerry -- My LibraryThing -- My Goodreads

02-08-2013, 01:13 AM	#44
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 55,156 Karma: 27556397 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Touch, PW, Fire HD, iPad 3, iPhone 4, Samsung Tab 2 7 + More	No, obviously if it's been done with the permission of the copyright holder it's fine. But the claim was made in an earlier post that these works were out of copyright, which they are not. __________________ Harry Currently proofreading The Poison Belt, by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

02-08-2013, 06:41 AM	#45
Dr. Drib Grand Sorcerer Posts: 21,960 Karma: 7572235 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Borja (Lima), Peru Device: Pcktbk 360; Kindle Paperwhite (WiFi)/ Fire HD; nook STR & Col; KoboGlo	Do the Night Shade ebook editions have working TOCs at the front end of each ebook? If so, I may have to borrow some money from Harry. Don __________________ “How to Write the First 3 Paragraphs of YOUR Indie Novel” - by Max Waxwelp 1) Always write 3 sentences of exposition; 2) now create some dialogue, preferably no more than 2 sentences; and 3) make certain the dialogue is either inane or humorous. Example: “Bob, I did not know you wore yellow suspenders,” Sally remarked. “Gee, Sally, those are not suspenders. I am wearing yellow underwear today,” Bob revealed. The dialogue above will help produce at least 100 more pages of dialogue.

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11-12-2011, 10:27 PM	#35
rogerVA Connoisseur Posts: 79 Karma: 68114 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kindle 3	I have the complete CAS and Hodgson in the hardcover Night Shade editions. One reason to buy the ebooks is to support the publisher and keep them going.

02-03-2013, 01:13 PM	#37
kwork Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: none	Another plug for the CAS and Hodgson ebooks from Baen. More than well worth the money. My only wish is that the fantasy stories would have been grouped by the world they take place in, but a small quibble at best.

02-03-2013, 02:10 PM	#38
crich70 Wizard Posts: 4,277 Karma: 14188835 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Monroe Wisconsin Device: K3, Kindle Paperwhite, Calibre, and Mobipocket for Pc (netbook)	There is also at least one ebook site where the C.A. Smith stories are available for free. I forget where it is at the moment. It was posted here at MR some time back.

02-04-2013, 04:43 AM	#41
pstjmack Enthusiast Posts: 45 Karma: 18148 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Budapest, Hungary Device: Android tablet	Generally I'd be in favour of a publisher producing a for-cash edition of copyright-free material already available on the internet - if they can show some value add. This probably is such a case - as long as the original source is properly credited with its terms of use properly adhered to, and reimbursed where appropriate. Admittedly, if The Eldritch Dark wasn't already there and already so wonderful, CAS lovers would have even more cause to celebrate. But in this case, I'd be less inclined to debate copyright adherence than crediting the source and terms of use.

02-08-2013, 01:01 AM	#43
kwork Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: none	LOL, Harry, this amuses me. So, even though the Eldritch Dark website has the blessing of the CAS estate for printing the stories on their website, it's still illegal? from the ED site at http://eldritchdark.com/about "Permission has been granted for the non-profit use of Clark Ashton Smith material on The Eldritch Dark website by - CASiana (the Estate of Clark Ashton Smith) and Arkham House."

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