The Dresden Files

[Nyssa]

Originally Posted by alansplace

Benedict Jacka's Alex Verus series, as of now there are 3, Fated, Cursed and Taken.
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These have been on my Amazon wish list for a while now!

Originally Posted by danskmacabre

What do people think the minimum age recommendation for reading the Dreseden files series is?
My son is 12 and a voracious reader, but this series seems too adult (referring to sexual content and torture scenes etc) for his age, but not sure when is appropriate to allow him to read it.

I know he could understand and process it though, just concerned about the adult concepts.

With the concerns regarding violence and sexual content I would say 15, although I think a mature 13 year old might be able to handle the series just fine.

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by danskmacabre

I'm quite sure he would love the books"in principal" it's just too violent for a 12 year old. there's sexual and sexually violent scenes in it.

Was just trying to say that Harry Dresden is not a Fifty Shades - trilogy. For that one to be able to enjoy the plot (and there is a good plot in Fifty Shades) you need to be somewhat more open-minded. How much violence is in super hero graphic novels? And they are supposed to be for kids, not?

And maybe I have ta agree with Nyssa there and put the number to a teenager.

[danskmacabre]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Was just trying to say that Harry Dresden is not a Fifty Shades - trilogy. For that one to be able to enjoy the plot (and there is a good plot in Fifty Shades) you need to be somewhat more open-minded. How much violence is in super hero graphic novels? And they are supposed to be for kids, not?

And maybe I have ta agree with Nyssa there and put the number to a teenager.

Well there is a scene in book one with a naked couple with their guts pulled out and is described graphically, I think that is too much for a 12 year old.

TBH I'll probs go with around 16, from then onwards he'll probably be reading what he wants regardless of my views anyway.

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by danskmacabre

Well there is a scene in book one with a naked couple with their guts pulled out and is described graphically, I think that is too much for a 12 year old.

TBH I'll probs go with around 16, from then onwards he'll probably be reading what he wants regardless of my views anyway.

You are quite right. Forgot about that. And if you remember right, Harry does get sick. So Jim is making sure that you as reader are aware of the wrongness (that a word? if not now it is) of the whole crime-scene. I actually remember reading something similar

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on an island. This time a girl on girl action, very visual. ( You will know when you get there. ) (Turn Coat)

Quite possible that I feel like a kid in the candy store reading the series, that I forget not everything that is funny and hilarious to me as an mature adult is equally entertaining for a growing developing younger little person.

[steven522]

Originally Posted by danskmacabre

What do people think the minimum age recommendation for reading the Dreseden files series is?

I began reading little segments of some of the books out-loud to my daughter when she was around 12-13. These mainly involved scenes that focused on Mister and, later, Mouse. So some selective editing was done on my part with just the omission of what was left unread.

She asked if I could loan her the books for "busy work" in school last year and I did thinking at 15-16 she could handle anything that might be referenced in the books.

Honestly, if your child is going to public school - anywhere - they have been exposed to way worse than anything that might appear in the Dresden series. Not being jaded here, just realistic.

Either way, when I think back to my reading selections when I was the same age, some of the horror and sci-fi books I was reading was probably a little over what I should have been exposed to, but I turned out OK...

...right?

[Nyssa]

Originally Posted by steven522

I began reading little segments of some of the books out-loud to my daughter when she was around 12-13. These mainly involved scenes that focused on Mister and, later, Mouse. So some selective editing was done on my part with just the omission of what was left unread.

She asked if I could loan her the books for "busy work" in school last year and I did thinking at 15-16 she could handle anything that might be referenced in the books.

Honestly, if your child is going to public school - anywhere - they have been exposed to way worse than anything that might appear in the Dresden series. Not being jaded here, just realistic.

Either way, when I think back to my reading selections when I was the same age, some of the horror and sci-fi books I was reading was probably a little over what I should have been exposed to, but I turned out OK...

...right?

Sorry, but that just hit a bit of a sore spot, with me. Public School has nothing to do with it. If your child is around any other children they will hear a lot.. period!

Examples:

1. The first curse word I ever heard said by a child was at a parochial (religious) private school. And although this school was a K - 12, the child was in 3rd grade (a grade lower than me at the time).

2. A friend of mine (A) invited the daughter of a friend of her's (B) for a sleep over. The girls were ages 10 (public school student) & 11 (home school student) respectively. While putting clothes away in her daughter's room, "A" saw a "Sex Quiz". Horrified she called her friend "B", who immediatly blamed "A"'s daughter becuase, well you know, she's in public school!!! Turns out the quiz was created by "B"'s daughter who was in the habit of reading the romance novels her mother left around the house.

[steven522]

Those are bad examples... everyone knows the religious schools are for the kids kicked out of public school and the home-schoolers are not allowed anywhere.

[CWatkinsNash]

I just finished Cold Days.

Holy crap. I didn't see that coming. Or, more accurately, I didn't see any of those coming. Wow. I don't think I need to list the things I'm referring to, for those who have read it.

Also, I see romance ahead for

Spoiler:

Toot and Lacuna

which should make things fun later.

I only wish "later" was "now". I literally just finished it ten minutes ago and I miss Harry already.

[Nyssa]

Originally Posted by steven522

Those are bad examples... everyone knows the religious schools are for the kids kicked out of public school and the home-schoolers are not allowed anywhere.

I've never been kicked out of a school in my life, thank you.

[Nyssa]

Originally Posted by CWatkinsNash

I just finished Cold Days.

Holy crap. I didn't see that coming. Or, more accurately, I didn't see any of those coming. Wow. I don't think I need to list the things I'm referring to, for those who have read it.

Also, I see romance ahead for

Spoiler:

Toot and Lacuna

which should make things fun later.

I only wish "later" was "now". I literally just finished it ten minutes ago and I miss Harry already.

I know exactly how you feel. I did have a feeling about one thing, towards the end, but was hoping very much to be wrong... sadly, I wasn't. So now I'm hoping it leads to one of the best tag teams EVER!!

[CWatkinsNash]

Originally Posted by Nyssa

I know exactly how you feel. I did have a feeling about one thing, towards the end, but was hoping very much to be wrong... sadly, I wasn't. So now I'm hoping it leads to one of the best tag teams EVER!!

I had this really odd few minutes where...

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I kept forgetting that Molly was there, until Harry mentioned it again, so for a bit I was thinking of the others present since Sarissa was now "assigned". I kid you not, for half a second, I actually wondered if Mac was the next Winter Lady. Yeah, I know that makes no sense, but I think I was caught up in "end of the book panic". And honestly, we don't know WTF he is. I mean, I'm pretty sure whatever he is isn't female, but at this point nothing would surprise me.

So I was going to plow right into the Shift Omnibus, but it's not on the reader yet and the USB cable wasn't where I could reach it from the bed (yeah, I know) so I decided to dive into one that's been on my "Next Reads" list FOREVAH - Already Dead by Charlie Huston, first of the Joe Pitt Casebooks. And then I find that Huston doesn't like the usual writing conventions, like properly formatted dialog. And now I don't know if I'm going to keep reading. Just because Cormac McCarthy got away with it, doesn't mean other people can. Huston uses em-dashes. That's it. Just em-dash before the words spoken.

-- Someone says this.
-- Someone else says this.
-- This person chimes in.

I'm annoyed.

[Nyssa]

Originally Posted by CWatkinsNash

I had this really odd few minutes where...

Spoiler:

I kept forgetting that Molly was there, until Harry mentioned it again, so for a bit I was thinking of the others present since Sarissa was now "assigned". I kid you not, for half a second, I actually wondered if Mac was the next Winter Lady. Yeah, I know that makes no sense, but I think I was caught up in "end of the book panic". And honestly, we don't know WTF he is. I mean, I'm pretty sure whatever he is isn't female, but at this point nothing would surprise me.

**Snort**

Oh, thanks for reminding me about him. I forgot there was a question about his .. umm .. being.

Originally Posted by CWatkinsNash

So I was going to plow right into the Shift Omnibus, but it's not on the reader yet and the USB cable wasn't where I could reach it from the bed (yeah, I know) so I decided to dive into one that's been on my "Next Reads" list FOREVAH - Already Dead by Charlie Huston, first of the Joe Pitt Casebooks. And then I find that Huston doesn't like the usual writing conventions, like properly formatted dialog. And now I don't know if I'm going to keep reading. Just because Cormac McCarthy got away with it, doesn't mean other people can. Huston uses em-dashes. That's it. Just em-dash before the words spoken.

-- Someone says this.
-- Someone else says this.
-- This person chimes in.

I'm annoyed.

Yeesh! Both the missing cable and the annoying format sucks!! Hopefully the story is compelling enough to allow you to continue resting in bed, and enjoy your reading.

[CWatkinsNash]

Originally Posted by Nyssa

**Snort**

Oh, thanks for reminding me about him. I forgot there was a question about his .. umm .. being.

Yep, and I'm not entirely pleased being left hanging, but I have hopes that it means the unraveling of that mystery will be done in a big way.

Originally Posted by Nyssa

Yeesh! Both the missing cable and the annoying format sucks!! Hopefully the story is compelling enough to allow you to continue resting in bed, and enjoy your reading.

Thanks!

[taosaur]

Originally Posted by danskmacabre

What do people think the minimum age recommendation for reading the Dreseden files series is?
My son is 12 and a voracious reader, but this series seems too adult (referring to sexual content and torture scenes etc) for his age, but not sure when is appropriate to allow him to read it.

I know he could understand and process it though, just concerned about the adult concepts.

It's going to depend a lot on the kid, but if he's reading any adult books now, these ones are probably fine. I wouldn't necessarily hand my just-turned-12 nephew the Dresden Files (and he's really still reading middle school stuff, and not "voraciously"), but I started reading Stephen King when I was 12-13, and he's more graphic in every respect than Butcher. If you were to brush book one under the rug (it does, after all, revolve around sex magic, and isn't that vital in setting up the characters) he would probably be fine.

[Toxaris]

I actually think Harry set a record there in the wizarding world...

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Not killing 1, but 3 Fae ladies in his career.....so far....

What I also found interesting is

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that Mab actually said she was human before. Makes me wonder who killed her predecessor.