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Old 01-24-2013, 08:09 AM   #16
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I have made the changes to calibre to make custom columns that "use checkmarks" put text at the left, as shown in image 2 of post 7.
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Wow. So does that mean that the next update of calibre will fix this column for me? Thank you so much Chaley. Obviously you are part of the calibre team, so I want to tell you how much I love Calibre and all of its plug ins. It, as much as the books it keeps organized for me, has become almost a hobby.

Hey since I seem to be shoot for the moon here (I was happy several posts back when I managed to get a ! in the column), I would love a new Column Type call it Symbols. You could put a $ (for a book to buy), a little calendar page (that could be used for books coming soon), a fancy N (for new books that haven't had metadata update yet), of course my ! and the check mark and x. People could use them for what ever they wanted. I'm sure others would have a few ideas for symbols. It is something very visual for people like me.

Thanks again chaley and everyone.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:57 AM   #18
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Wow. So does that mean that the next update of calibre will fix this column for me?
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Thank you so much Chaley. Obviously you are part of the calibre team, so I want to tell you how much I love Calibre and all of its plug ins. It, as much as the books it keeps organized for me, has become almost a hobby.
You are very welcome.
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Hey since I seem to be shoot for the moon here (I was happy several posts back when I managed to get a ! in the column), I would love a new Column Type call it Symbols. You could put a $ (for a book to buy), a little calendar page (that could be used for books coming soon), a fancy N (for new books that haven't had metadata update yet), of course my ! and the check mark and x. People could use them for what ever they wanted. I'm sure others would have a few ideas for symbols. It is something very visual for people like me.
You can do something close to this already. Most of the fonts used by calibre support the symbol glyphs. If you use windows, take a look at start menu -> programs -> accessories -> system tools -> character map. You can pick a character that visually "does it" for you, copy it, then paste it into the custom column definition where you put the exclamation point. Put in as many different symbols as you wish, separated by commas (which of course means that you can't use a comma as a symbol). On the Mac (apparently) you can use something called "Character Palette".
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:03 PM   #19
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Actually I did exactly that, I used the character map. It works but I found 2 things, first most of fonts that have the interesting glyphs aren't supported by Calibre and second that some thing like any letter or a ! come out like they would if you typed it not like it would copying it from cooper black.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:02 AM   #20
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Hey since I seem to be shoot for the moon here (I was happy several posts back when I managed to get a ! in the column), I would love a new Column Type call it Symbols. You could put a $ (for a book to buy), a little calendar page (that could be used for books coming soon), a fancy N (for new books that haven't had metadata update yet), of course my ! and the check mark and x. People could use them for what ever they wanted. I'm sure others would have a few ideas for symbols. It is something very visual for people like me.
I have an idea that might work out here. It would also satisfy some long-running enhancement requests.

I think I can make calibre use a custom icon image for specific values in the column, probably by using the column's coloring specification. If the color is "something.png" (but without the quotes) instead of a color name, then when calibre sees the corresponding value it would use the image instead of the value.

You would put the file "something.png" into yourCalibreConfigFolder/resources/images, the same place that custom toolbar icons go. If calibre cannot find the image then it would display the text.

These custom icons would be displayed only on calibre's spreadsheet. They would not be displayed in the content server, book details, or other places that display values.

Is this a change that would interest people?
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:07 AM   #21
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I have an idea that might work out here. It would also satisfy some long-running enhancement requests.

I think I can make calibre use a custom icon image for specific values in the column, probably by using the column's coloring specification. If the color is "something.png" (but without the quotes) instead of a color name, then when calibre sees the corresponding value it would use the image instead of the value.

You would put the file "something.png" into yourCalibreConfigFolder/resources/images, the same place that custom toolbar icons go. If calibre cannot find the image then it would display the text.

These custom icons would be displayed only on calibre's spreadsheet. They would not be displayed in the content server, book details, or other places that display values.

Is this a change that would interest people?
I like it. As I read this thread, I was thinking that a nice exclamation mark icon would look good instead of the character. And I like the way you are doing it. Really, all you are doing is expanding the type of object being named.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:29 AM   #22
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I would also be interested in an icon feature. PNG is scalable so that gets around potential sizing issues.

As a corollary, would it be possible to set a custom font for a column? Basically to get around the issue Terisea noted such as using Wingdings and other symbolic/non-textual fonts to place "characters" which actually displays a symbol. This would allow artistically challenged users to make use of nice symbolic fonts.
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:17 AM   #23
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@chaley: If you want to implement this, use the same mechanism as that used for user category custom icons and add a control to the coloring dialog to allwo the user to select images.
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I think I get what you are getting at. And that sounds great! How would you get it into a column?
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:10 PM   #25
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I think I get what you are getting at. And that sounds great! How would you get it into a column?
That is a good question. I don't know yet. In fact, I don't know if I am going to try this.

In the post before yours, Kovid is in effect suggesting that the existing color rules (preferences -> look and feel -> column coloring) be extended to handle this case. The current rules say "Set the *color* of column X to [color chooser box]". One way to extend it is to have it say something like "Set the [color|icon] of column x to [chooser]". If the user chooses "color", then the existing color chooser box would show. If the user chooses "icon" then a file chooser box would show. The condition tests would remain the same.

There is complexity here, specifically making sure that everything that works today continues to work while allowing the new specifications, and that performance is acceptable. I need to think about how, or even whether, to do go forward.
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We could always go back to my suggestion which would be nice and easy. Create a new column type called Icons and put a bunch in there that the user can use or not.
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We could always go back to my suggestion which would be nice and easy. Create a new column type called Icons and put a bunch in there that the user can use or not.
Actually, in terms of development that would be much harder for me. New data types affect huge swaths of calibre, and have the potential to break many things.
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oh. By the way I downloaded the new version of Calibre and now my new column has all the icons lined up. Thank you so much. I am very happy with this.

In terms of future development a way to add more icons in a more robust way would be nice. There are people like me who are very visual. I have no idea how the pic was added but I would show you if I could how I now have check marks for those I have read and x for those I won't, @ sign for my reading list and ! for coming soon. And again the only thing you would notice, now that the column lines up, is that the ! and @ are not as strong as the X and check.

I don't know what the answer is, I'm not a programer, maybe Sabardeyn was on to something with creating a column that allows custom fonts like WingDings and WebDings.

But Kovids answer interests me the most. The man amazes me with this program. I actually just discovered the Genre plugin and its great. I've gone from three libraries to one and changing the icons is very visual I like it.

Let me know if I can help. Testing or whatever. Thanks again for all your help.
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I actually just discovered the Genre plugin and its great. I've gone from three libraries to one and changing the icons is very visual I like it.
The prospect on one library really interests me. I've currently got 7.

Could you steer me in the direction of this Genre plugin please.

I've looked for it but maybe I'm not seeing the forest for the trees.

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The prospect on one library really interests me. I've currently got 7.
Personally I use tags and saved searches (right of the search bar) and the Restrict to feature (left of the search bar) to create multiple virtual libraries within one large library.

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Could you steer me in the direction of this Genre plugin please.

I've looked for it but maybe I'm not seeing the forest for the trees.
There isn't a "Genre" plugin so I'll be interested in which plugin is actually being referred to.

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