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Old 01-13-2013, 10:54 AM   #31
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Here are first pictures of new designed Boox with Android (RK2906 CPU @ 1Ghz)
Honestly, and really you plan to sell such design?

And, I'm not speaking about being Android, and how fast and well it will run over, something interesting for many of us (and, by the way, I'm still waiting for your promised information about the upcoming Android, keycodes and controller information, to check if possible to use and patch over a real and current CoolReader). Leave aside all this for the moment, we will consider than Android will work perfectly, fast, and with no problems.

Such design, such size, such frame, white pearl, such keys...? Which screen type it uses? HD or not? About lighting, will this device have it? Which type?

And, please don't tell me about "safe" factory design for screen, need keys for Android, need hardware motherboard or sizes, or anything else. It seems almost all companies making e-readers actually have in staff someone dedicated to kill any good idea, new or existing, and, of course, never read a full book or uses the device to do real reading, daily, for hours, many different situations and places. Please, all, take them out from such job.

You 're breaking your own rules and work: someones good in current i62HD/Firefly.

Such buttons maybe good and common for Android, but not for reading. Regardless their functions, or mapping, it's much better double buttons on each side, large and narrow, for turning pages and many other things, much like your current i62HD line, or Nook ones, or previous Kindles (both touch & non-touch). Add extra keys for Android if need, most will be a central home key.

For color, much better for reading and contrast to grey screen, a black matte, and both safe from fingerprints and slips. Simple see current market experience and/or copy from others.

For global design and frame size... no way! Nowadays. You should attempt to make it as small and comfortable for holding and carry, and as lightweight as possible, just see Sony T2 design or copy from elsewhere (you only need an extra and small amount for side keys).

And so on ... what about details for touch screen? How sensitive? Infrared? Capacitive? You can go street and also copy, an old but well added technology as infrared can work perfectly (like Sony), being cheap and not causing problems with additional touch layers over screen and contrast.

Or other details, being these maybe more small and personal, I can't not understand at all why all connections and slots and switches go now to bottom edge, where the cabling, power, or SD causes more problems, where most time device is resting for reading on the street, at home or in bed, and you can hit or break something inadvertently, and many other things. Why not top edge for most things, just like phones, and edges for others, like also phones or tablets?

Well, thanks anyway for your information, and let's see what is really out for sales and how it works.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:33 PM   #32
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I can't understand at all why all connections and slots and switches go now to bottom edge, where the cabling, power, or SD causes more problems, where most time device is resting for reading on the street, at home or in bed, and you can hit or break something inadvertently, and many other things. Why not top edge for most things, just like phones, and edges for others, like also phones or tablets?
Not all tablets have connections on upper or at least side edge. For example Asus Transformer TF201. Nevetherless, I agree, it should not be on bottom edge.

There is solution. One may rotate screen 180 deg. and voila ... plugs will move to the top. It costs only 2 cliks.

But still, connections should be on top (or at least side) by design!
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:59 AM   #33
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Are there any news about Android devices? Tech specs, test results?
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:16 PM   #34
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By the way ... you can also include something good from the past.

Easily user replaceable and accessible battery, a simple back cover, removed by hand, and no special "tools" or "connections", just like most (old?) mobile phones, computers or even e-readers were.

And, if possible, using a totally standard battery, like Nokia o Samsung compatible, even better.

Stop trying to sell planned obsolescence, need to send back to "repair" or buy new.

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Old 01-19-2013, 07:50 AM   #35
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I completely agree with jotas. Design is unattractive, like from the previous century(at least at the photos). Small buttons on one side are inconvenient. And having a replaceable battery would be great!
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:13 AM   #36
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I'm really looking forward to an Android e-ink device, with at least Gingerbread on it, but I do agree that the pictures above show awful looking devices. They seem made of the cheap glossy plastic from the 80's.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:58 AM   #37
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I'm really looking forward to an Android e-ink device, with at least Gingerbread on it, but I do agree that the pictures above show awful looking devices. They seem made of the cheap glossy plastic from the 80's.
AFAIK only Android eink are 2.1-2.2 based: B&N nook and Sony T1 &T2
So a newer release would be a great idea
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Hi,

I got short news concerning Android device. You can ignore the pictures above. They decided to abandon this design. New Android Boox shall be made similar to Firefly (with side buttons on both sides ) and will get Moon Light functionality too.
I hope to get new pictures tomorrow. Sample device shall be sent to me in two weeks.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:00 AM   #39
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New to this forum. Waiting for the Firefly to be back in stock (too bad it wasn't on 18 january). But now I also wonder if I should wait for the new boox, in order to have android. Or will a version of android be released for the firefly as well for sure?
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New to this forum. Waiting for the Firefly to be back in stock (too bad it wasn't on 18 january). But now I also wonder if I should wait for the new boox, in order to have android. Or will a version of android be released for the firefly as well for sure?
For the Android, wait to read the first reviews ! Some people have bought the M90 before see the review... it wasn't a good idea. I think that Booxtor will make a test.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:33 AM   #41
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I agree waiting for the reviews is a wise decision. But my main question is: if I want Android on my reader, do I wait for the new boox or can I expect android to be released for the firefly?
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I got short news concerning Android device. You can ignore the pictures above. They decided to abandon this design. New Android Boox shall be made similar to Firefly (with side buttons on both sides ) and will get Moon Light functionality too.
I hope to get new pictures tomorrow. Sample device shall be sent to me in two weeks.
Any idea when it marketed for in your shop?

On hard, and know it will be similar to Firefly, but have news on the microprocessor, RAM and Android version that will carry?


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Hi,

I got short news concerning Android device. You can ignore the pictures above. They decided to abandon this design. New Android Boox shall be made similar to Firefly (with side buttons on both sides ) and will get Moon Light functionality too.
I hope to get new pictures tomorrow. Sample device shall be sent to me in two weeks.
Interesting. What's moon light functionality? Is that a backlight?

Also, any update on Android for the M92?
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Interesting. What's moon light functionality? Is that a backlight?

Also, any update on Android for the M92?
Moon light is the front light that i62 hd Firefly uses (or i62 ML AngelGlow in the ArtaTech).
There is no backlight in any eink ereader AFAIK. All illuminated ereaders have frontlight including Kindle Paperwhite, Kobo Glo, Nook Touch Glowlught, Cybook ...

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AFAIK only Android eink are 2.1-2.2 based: B&N nook and Sony T1 &T2
So a newer release would be a great idea
Yes, Sony comes with 2.2 and Nook with 2.1, which in fact is a serious limitation since several (and increasingly) apps only work properly or have the latest version available on 2.3. An example is Kindle App: the feature of easily alternate between dicts is only available on Gingerbread and beyond.

Thanks for the new info regarding onyx devices, booxtor. I eagerly await for your review.
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