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Old 01-16-2013, 07:18 AM   #91
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I'd rather just turn the d@mn things off. I was able to make them mostly go away by installing Classic Shell at home, but we just (finally) switched over the Win7 at work, and the IT dept has been overzealous in locking out any customization.
When I first encountered them, I hated them. They were different from my normal workflow, and it pissed me off.

But then I did some reading on it, and their uses makes sense to me now. It's actually a nice idea to have a virtual folder that aggregates other folders, ones which you define.

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Old 01-16-2013, 12:33 PM   #92
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Apple ‘cuts order for iPhone5 parts’ after weak sales but Samsung powers on after selling 100m Galaxy S devices

Tech giant has seen share price tumble by a quarter since September when iPhone5 debuted
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:20 PM   #93
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Apple has told three suppliers, Japan Display, Sharp and LG Display, that it requires fewer screens, after previously requesting as many as 65 million units for the January to March quarter.
That just screams bogus to me.
Previous best selling quarter was 37 million, but they ordered 75% more than that? At a time when they face more competition than ever before?
Does that pass the smell test?
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:28 PM   #94
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Yes. As much as any of the spin and sizzle and sh*t that gets spewed out. Probably more because it's real data.

Does the part about Samsung sales scream bogus to you as well?

If they had of said that Apple was increasing orders what would you have said in response?

You seem to have missed this part of the article:

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The iPhone maker has almost halved its order of liquid-crystal display panels from key suppliers, according to the Japanese newspaper the Nikkei.
oh and the stock market seems to think it's legit.

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Old 01-16-2013, 01:38 PM   #95
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... and the suppliers ran to the media with the news.

I would expect the contracts between Apple and the suppliers to have a clause against something like this.
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Well what should anyone expect when a company continues to sell the same device with very little innovation it will catch up to you eventually. Especially since they are way over priced.
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Here's another up to date article that says the same thing about cuts... http://www.businessinsider.com/apple...-chain-2011-11

Oh wait, it's dated November 2011... hey that makes life simple, ignore facts, make rumours of the year before last's rumours. pass on, recycle and repeat...
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Here's another up to date article that says the same thing about cuts... http://www.businessinsider.com/apple...-chain-2011-11

Oh wait, it's dated November 2011... hey that makes life simple, ignore facts, make rumours of the year before last's rumours. pass on, recycle and repeat...
Yes that one was about the 4S, this one is about the 5.

So they once again continue to reduce orders, sell less and become less cool.
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Probably more because it's real data.
Really? Where is the actual attributed quote for the 65 million number? (Or any other the other numbers)
This is all 'anonymous source told me' rubbish.

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Did you read my post? That is what I'm questioning.
Not whether the orders have been reduced, but whether they would ever have increased their orders to 65 million in the first place, given that they have never sold more than 37 million in a quarter before.
If they did order that many, no wonder they are having to reduce the order!
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Yep, too bad for them sales didn't meet expectations.

and in the mean time Samsung is increasing its parts orders. At least that's what I heard.
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This is all 'anonymous source told me' rubbish.
Wouldn't this be '3 anonymous sources told me'? Or is it supposed to be just one guy that works for all 3 competing manufacturers?
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Wouldn't this be '3 anonymous sources told me'? Or is it supposed to be just one guy that works for all 3 competing manufacturers?
We've no idea, do we, as none of the sources have been identified?
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That just screams bogus to me.
Previous best selling quarter was 37 million, but they ordered 75% more than that? At a time when they face more competition than ever before?
Does that pass the smell test?
murray, admittedly, a lot of the reports don't jive with one another, or have some internal inconsistencies as you point out. But the reports are just too numerous to ignore. And they all generally say the same thing. And Apple's silence only lends credence to them.

As has been said, where there's smoke there's fire.

Regarding the 65 million -- well one report I did see says the cuts extended beyond the iP5. So that 65 million number could include all tablets as well as the iPod Touch and iPod Nano which has a capacitive touch screen.

Just to be clear, because my position has often been mischaracterized by a certain someone ... I am not saying Apple is on its deathbed by any means. I think, the reports, if true, merely point to a continuing erosion in Apple's market share. They will likely be a healthy and profitable company for many years to come. Just that their time of dominance in the mobile market may be passing.

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murray, admittedly, a lot of the reports don't jive with one another, or have some internal inconsistencies as you point out. But the reports are just too numerous to ignore. And they all generally say the same thing.
They all say the same thing because they are all just repeating the same story.
There is one story here, from the Japanese newspaper.
There is possibly separate information from the WSJ, or possibly they are just repeating the same info.
Everything else is just following on from that.

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Japan's Nikkei reported earlier Monday that Apple has slashed its orders for iPhone 5 components.
From the Gizmodo article:
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The iPhone maker has almost halved its order of liquid-crystal display panels from key suppliers, according to the Japanese newspaper the Nikkei.
This is what I was talking about earlier, they are all just reporting on the reporting.

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As has been said, where there's smoke there's fire.
No, quite often there is just smoke. (And occasionally mirrors.)

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Regarding the 65 million -- well one report I did see says the cuts extended beyond the iP5. So that 65 million number could include all tablets as well as the iPod Touch and iPod Nano which has a capacitive touch screen.
So we don't even know what the number (that we don't know is correct) applies to?
But these are hard numbers?

Again, I couldn't care less how many units Apple have or haven't ordered, I just dislike the sloppy reporting that is then treated as gospel.
Oddly, if you take the first dubious number (65 million orders), then apply the second dubious number (orders reduced by 50%), you end up with around 30-35 million units, which sound like a very believable number, perhaps even on the high side for a non-release, non-holiday quarter. That is why I find the 65 million number so unbelievable.

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So it's for sure then!

Confirmed!

Poor Apple.
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