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Old 01-09-2013, 08:52 PM   #61
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You are correct DiapDealer. It was the broader, impersonal "you." I was quite excited about borrowing my first library e-book the other night and was looking for threads about library borrowing and found some people openly advocating stripping DRM from library titles. I am guessing that means, as well, that not only can you put them on any device, but that they never expire. A publisher reading that is not going to look at libraries as a place to win new buyers but as a place where books will get copied for uncompensated reproduction.

There really is no reason for that kind of behaviour. If borrowing from the library is something you want to do, then you should get a reader that plays well with your local library. That's what I did.
Oh, gotcha, and I agree. Do you guys think that this happens a lot?
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:55 PM   #62
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I DON'T buy their books - at least not knowingly. I haven't knowingly purchased a book from Penguin since I found out they were so library antagonistic.
Same here: I make sure the title I am about to purchase is not from Penguin, or I'll pass it up. Penguin will change their ways at some point, and then I will be able to make those purchases: right now I just hate them too much to give them my money.
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:01 PM   #63
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So how do you download eBooks from Overdrive to your Kindle without a computer?
You can: use the kindle browser, an Overdrive app on any iOs or Android device, or the library computers.
I was thinking less affluent households, and was advocating Kindle for them. Someone with little money and no home computer and internet connection can always use the library computers and the libraries' free Wifi connections to get content onto their Kindles. That is not the case with, for instance, Nooks or Kobos which are close in price point. Sony's T1/2 are almost twice the initial purchase cost. Again: I was thinking less affluent households.

Also, I can return a Kindle book early, as soon as I am done with it, and often managed to return a book the next day if I read it quickly. Not sure this is possible with ePub books, that would, in the same scenario, be blocked off for up to three weeks until the next peson in the queue gets to read it?

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Old 01-09-2013, 09:10 PM   #64
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Also, I can return a Kindle book early, as soon as I am done with it, and often managed to return a book the next day if I read it quickly. Not sure this is possible with ePub books, that would, in the same scenario, be blocked off for up to three weeks until the next peson in the queue gets to read it?
EPUBs can be returned early from either ADE or the Overdrive app.
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EPUBs can be returned early from either ADE or the Overdrive app.
Thanks or the clarification, so then there is no advantage of one format over another in this specific case.
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Things were better for us epub borrowers before Amazon made it available on the Kindle.
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yeah I'm a selfish pr**K.
Well, selfish pr""Ks have the evolutionary advantage.
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The books borrowed from the library are paid for. I don't borrow ebooks from anywhere but the library.
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Same here: I make sure the title I am about to purchase is not from Penguin, or I'll pass it up.
What about Macmillan and Simon & Schuster?

We can borrow a small number of Penguin books through the New York and Brooklyn libraries. The 3M software is unusually inconvenient, and few books are offered, but if press reports as to be believed, libraries can obtain any Penguin backlist title. By contrast, I believe that, at least in the US, Macmillan and Simon & Schuster completely refuse eBooks to libraries.
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What about Macmillan and Simon & Schuster?

We can borrow a small number of Penguin books through the New York and Brooklyn libraries. The 3M software is unusually inconvenient, and few books are offered, but if press reports as to be believed, libraries can obtain any Penguin backlist title. By contrast, I believe that, at least in the US, Macmillan and Simon & Schuster completely refuse eBooks to libraries.
Ummmm, I guess Penguin stuck with me a while back when I read a few articles about them, and also noticed that not one of the Penguin books on my Amazon wishlist is available through eborrowing (as well as that their titles never go down in price). I have not noticed that from any other publisher, but it could just be that they don't publish the type of books I like. I'll have to do some research, it seems.
So far, my taste seems to gravitate towards Penguin and HarperCollins titles, as well as smaller publishers.
I have no beef with HarperCollins, especially now that Amazon can lower their prices, but the Penguin titles remain untouched on my wishlist.

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