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Items that did not enter the U.S. public domain yesterday:
[Click to enlarge] On the plus side for the American posters, you'll only have to wait until 2019 before items begin entering the public domain (well, 2056 for the above pictured items)! While that might seem like a long time to wait, take comfort in the fact that the American copyright system is protecting important works from the public that the creators have, in most cases, long since stopped caring about. Duke Law puts the situation this way: Quote:
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This stuff is so confusing. Given the extremely easy and carefree way we can break the law if we want to, it certainly makes me sorely tempted to consistently apply whatever law I think makes sense and damn everything else.
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Caleb the short answer is no.
Irrespective of what the copyright ruling is in the country in which the book was published, the ruling is how it affects Australia. So, a US author who published a book you want to read in the US and died in 1954 or before - is in the public domain in Australia. Likewise, an author who published a book in the UK and died anywhere in the world in 1954 or before, is in the public domain in Australia. All authors (and their work) that died in 1954 or before is in the public domain in Australia irrespective of where it was published. Last edited by Lynx-lynx; 01-03-2013 at 02:47 AM. Reason: Add last para |
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Yes, that's exactly what it means. If a work is in the public domain in its source country, then it's also in the public domain in Australia, because Australian copyright law incorporates the rule of the shorter term.
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Strange. I thought that L M Montgomery's books had been PD in the UK for years! I have read several of the "Anne" books on my ereader.
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Caleb here is the link to:
Find an Answer - Australian Copyright Council And here is a link to the: Introduction to copyright brochure The para in particular you might be interested in is: ------------------------- How long does copyright last? Until 1 January 2005, copyright generally lasted for the life of the relevant creator plus 50 years. There were various exceptions to this rule, including: • where a work was not published, performed or broadcast during a creatorʼs lifetime; and • where something was published anonymously or under a pseudonym, and the identity of the creator couldnʼt reasonably be ascertained. (In each of these cases, copyright lasted for 50 years from the end of the year the work was, with permission, first published, performed or broadcast.) Under the Free Trade Agreement with the United States, Australia agreed to extend the general duration of copyright. As a result, the rules now are that copyright generally lasts for the life of the creator plus 70 years and where duration depends on year of publication, it lasts until 70 years after it is first published. The Free Trade Agreement did not, however, include any obligation to revive copyright if copyright had already expired. This means that if, under the old rules, copyright had already expired by 1 January 2005, it stays expired and the material can be used freely under Australian law. |
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See item 5 of the Australian Copyright (International Protection) Regulations 1969 (consolidated as of 1 January 2005) Act (Pages 11 and 12 of the document): Quote:
ie, If a foreign work would, under Australian copyright law, be under copyright protection, then that protection only exists as long as it's also protected by copyright in its source country. Or, turning it around, if it's in the public domain in its source country, it's also in the public domain in Australia. This Item 5 is a statement of the rule of the shorter term, as I've said in previous posts.
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Harry, none of those words you captured were mine, they all came from the Australian Copyright Council.
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Let's consider the case of a Canadian author who died in 1960. Because Canada has a "life+50" copyright law, the works of this author are now in the public domain in Canada (they entered the Canadian public domain on 1st Jan 2011). One might think that these works are still protected by copyright in Australia (and they would be if they were Australian works), but due to the fact that Australian copyright law incorporates the rule of the shorter term, Canadian editions of these works are also in the public domain in Australia.
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Is there a list of american writers who are now in the public domain?
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(Here's an example - Britsh author wrtes story in 1940. Story is first published in the US. US copyright is for 28 years (at the time) with one 28 year renewal, which must be done in a particular time frame to be valid. Copyright was not renewed. PD is the US? Nobody knows...(Project Gutenberg won't touch because of the internation copyright implication... I know, I asked...) Probably under copyright due to the recent SCOTUS "Peter and the Wolf" ruling...)
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