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Old 12-20-2012, 08:18 AM   #16
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problem is , no ios pdf reader can zoom only TEXT in pdf till the edge of the visible screen and STAY that way like some android programs...that's the main problem with ipad and pdf's in my book. you are either loosing a good portion of screen real estate, or you have to zooming and pinching all over all the time...

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Have you tried both GoodReader and neu.Annotate? I seem to remember the neu.Annotate developer talking about a feature that resembles what you are missing.

Plus, remember that PDF isn't really a suitable format for e-books. It's an anomaly, when nothing more suitable is available. I try to avoid PDFs whenever I can. On the other hand, they are suitable especially for older, photographed books, because that way I can avoid all the inaccuracies and modernizations frequently introduced whenever an old book is converted into EPUB or Amazon formats.
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problem is , no ios pdf reader can zoom only TEXT in pdf till the edge of the visible screen and STAY that way like some android programs...that's the main problem with ipad and pdf's in my book. you are either loosing a good portion of screen real estate, or you have to zooming and pinching all over all the time...
hmmm,

GoodReader does that, I think. I double touch and it zooms enough to hide edges.

Have you tried GoodReader?
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:49 AM   #19
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hmmm,

GoodReader does that, I think. I double touch and it zooms enough to hide edges.

Have you tried GoodReader?
hmm, not so sure...it does zoom but what happens when you go to the next page? it goes back and you have to double tap it again? it's not the same thing...point is you dont have to double tap or do pinch to zoom in pdf, you just have to press one zoom button in menu and pdf text is automatically zoomed until the edge of the screen. no more zooming or double tap or anything. program is called repligo reader, i sugest everyone who has android to try. of course, buy program or donate, suport an excellant developer!

P.S. some called it ebook reading mode. ebook reading mode automatically recognizes the text and images and sizes them to fit your screen perfectly emulating an e book experience while still being able to adjust text size and appearance.

with repligo, you can have epub/ebook experince with pdf on tablets, and that's no small thing...

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I don't quite understand what it is that you're missing. When I browse PDF files in GoodReader or neu.Annotate, they don't stupidly show the entire paper page with huge empty margins around the text. (They are not iBooks, after all.) Nope, they cut away the needless white space above and below the text, so I do believe they "preserve the zoom" as you put it.

It's always dangerous to judge an entire platform without first testing the best software that that platform has to offer. iBooks is not the best iOS software to view PDF or EPUB files, just like Safari isn't the best iOS browser. GoodReader seems commonly recognized as the leader on iOS for handling PDF files, so you should at least give GoodReader a thorough test before criticizing the entire platform.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:03 PM   #21
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I don't quite understand what it is that you're missing. When I browse PDF files in GoodReader or neu.Annotate, they don't stupidly show the entire paper page with huge empty margins around the text. (They are not iBooks, after all.) Nope, they cut away the needless white space above and below the text, so I do believe they "preserve the zoom" as you put it.

It's always dangerous to judge an entire platform without first testing the best software that that platform has to offer. iBooks is not the best iOS software to view PDF or EPUB files, just like Safari isn't the best iOS browser. GoodReader seems commonly recognized as the leader on iOS for handling PDF files, so you should at least give GoodReader a thorough test before criticizing the entire platform.
ok, and if good reader cut the white space does such zoom stay that way through entire pdf, or you have to do zoom again for every next page, be it through tap again, or double tap, or pinch to zoom? i hope we do understand each other...some screenshots will be helpful if you can, because i don't have these programs to try...
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GoodReader preserves whatever zoom you want it to have. The zoom setting on the previous page will automatically be used again on the following page.

In practice, though, I haven't found it necessary to use zoom in GoodReader a lot (if at all), because GoodReader is smart enough to show PDF files in the optimal way as the default, right when you first open the files. At least that's been my experience.

As to screenshots, there is nothing to send, because GoodReader's interface completely disappears when you open a PDF file, so that the only thing you see is the content of the PDF file. Too wide empty margins and wasted screen real estate have never been a problem for me in GoodReader. And I'm sensitive to this issue -- I find myself unable to use iBooks precisely because of the dumb way it displays texts, leaving huge empty margins around the text (particularly bad on the iPhone!), with zero margin-width customization options for the user.
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ok, and if good reader cut the white space does such zoom stay that way through entire pdf, or you have to do zoom again for every next page, be it through tap again, or double tap, or pinch to zoom? i hope we do understand each other...some screenshots will be helpful if you can, because i don't have these programs to try...
It stays! ...
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i have checked in the meantime...it has some function which is called crop margins. it's not so elegant like in repligo, but it does the job i suppose...
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Thought about a quick update on my own thread ...;-)

Came back from visit my mom in South America and boy! ... I love the mini! As ereader device and portable tablet, is very nice!

We enjoy the mini during our overnight trip a lot. We watched two Amazon Prime movies offline, I used it as ereader device in Miami when changing planes, and took few pictures in Colombia when my DSLR was not handy. I had a blast.

Yeah, not same resolution as the iPad3, but it's actually more crisp with PDFs than the iPad2. But not so small than my previous Nexus 7 or Galaxy Tablet.

Great battery and so portable but easy to read and see that I just gave my iPad3 to my wife.
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agree. saw one today. it can turn you from an apple hater in a lover in a second, outstanding quality and love the 8" with 4:3. But the text was awful...guess apple is planing stuff ahead, increasing resolution on second and ram on 3rd edition...etc..shame android tablets are not this form factor and not this quality...
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GoodReads is the best app for PDF for iOS.
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You mean GoodReader, right?

I agree that the Android tablets' major fail is their 9:16 or 10:16 form factor. It's just not optimal for reading, period. I disagree with Apple on many things, but I agree with Steve Jobs when he was explaining that the 3:4 ratio, resembling that of a traditional sheet of paper, is optimal for tablets. I just don't think watching movies is the primary function of tablets -- and truly widescreen movies look terrible on 16:9 tablets, too.

I skipped buying the iPad Mini due to its mediocre display, but as soon as it's available with a Retina screen, it will become irresistible.
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but still years away from the best solutions on android for pdf...i have goodreader as well on ipad, but it cant hold a candle to android trio: repligo, orion viewer and ebookdroid reader (the last 2 are free)...despite all the bla bla about app store and its wast selection, when we narrow things down a bit apple app store looks like poor cousin compared to android...and exactly in the multimedia department where are the things which matters...when we compare say video and audio players android beat the crap out of apple, as well as in ebook reader department. and android solutions are for the most cases free...

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I very much doubt that. Don't provoke me to review ebookdroid reader, because I'm afraid the review would be annihilating.

(Off-topic: in terms of movies, what exactly is it that you're lacking in AVPlayerHD on iOS?)
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