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Old 12-13-2012, 10:07 AM   #271
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IE 10 has flash built in. The thing I see issues with is Java applets. go to a website and get stuck because there is a drop list box or pulldown menu that you need to make a selection with but the applet that runs list/menu doesnt work.
Isn't that the limited white list based flash support? Originally IE on RT wasn't going to allow flash at all, but MS were put under pressure from Disney, Google and a few other sites that were heavily dependant on flash. So MS white listed those sites.

AFAIK if you're not a well known site who has been whitelisted, then flash won't work for your site on IE 10. I could be wrong, MS may have caved totally and I've not been keeping close tabs on the news, but that's the last i heard anyway.
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Isn't that the limited white list based flash support? Originally IE on RT wasn't going to allow flash at all, but MS were put under pressure from Disney, Google and a few other sites that were heavily dependant on flash. So MS white listed those sites.

AFAIK if you're not a well known site who has been whitelisted, then flash won't work for your site on IE 10. I could be wrong, MS may have caved totally and I've not been keeping close tabs on the news, but that's the last i heard anyway.
There is a white list with hundreds of sites on it. You can manually edit it and ad other sites to it.
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There is a white list with hundreds of sites on it. You can manually edit it and ad other sites to it.
If it's user editable, then that's a perfectly acceptable solution. When I last read about it, that wasn't going to be an option.
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I used the guide below in Windows RT to edit the white list.

http://www.surfaceforums.net/forum/m...etro-ie10.html

Works for both, the Metro and the desktop IE.

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Dell delayed delivery on the Latitude 10 again, so I cancelled my order and picked up a Samsung ATIV Smart PC at Best Buy. Amazon had reduced the price to $599 today, so Best Buy price matched (they wanted $699).

I've only had a little time (less than an hour) with it so far, and I don't have a WiFi connection at work, but so far I'm VERY impressed. All the reviews I’ve read say to run the SW updater before doing ANYTHING, but since no WiFi, no update. Now if I could only figger out that dastardlly Win8!
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Now if I could only figger out that dastardlly Win8!
To launch an application on Windows 7:

Press Winkey, then type the first few letters of the application name, and hit enter.

To launch an application on Windows 8:

Press Winkey, then type the first few letters of the application name, and hit enter.

To get the the list of applications you can choose from on Windows 7:

Move mouse to lower left corner of screen, and left click.

To get the the list of applications you can choose from on Windows 8:

Move mouse to lower left corner of screen, and left click.


If you want, you can buy a book like Windows 8 Secrets which makes it sound like, if you can't pass an exam on the difference between metro and desktop, you're in trouble. And if you want to set up a home network, maybe you are. But before I did that, I had no real need to grok the difference.

EDIT: Since you are on a tablet, I guess some of what I wrote above doesn't quite apply unless you are plugging in a keyboard and mouse.

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Thanks Steve,

No, no mouse but I think dragging in from the right or left edge does the same thing. I have a BT mouse and KB that I'll be attaching so I can run it on my big TV via HDMI and I think the corner thing will work there.

Actually since I'm fluent in both Win 7 and Android the learning curve shouldn't be that great. The little bit I've had the chance to play haven't been too painful.
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Those reviewers using the same device as me? Glad I listened to user experiences which more or less are very positive.

Easily the best UI I've personally ever experienced. Just CLICK IT!

Tablets a waste of time? Nope, especially not this one.

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Samsung Ativ Tab

Just saw the Samsung Ativ Tab in German "Saturn Market".
Windows 8 Pro, not RT.

Extremely disappointing.
I'm not a fan of Samsung design-wise, somehow most of their gadgets always look and feel very "plasticky" to me.
But that's not the main issue here.
I've only played with it for maybe 2 minutes.
But already in that short period, it seemed extremely laggy.
Even when flipping through the tiles, some stuttering was pretty obvious.
Surface RT is way smoother.
I hope, Surface Pro will be as "polished" as Surface RT and not similar to Ativ Tab.
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Just saw the Samsung Ativ Tab in German "Saturn Market".
Windows 8 Pro, not RT.

Extremely disappointing.
I'm not a fan of Samsung design-wise, somehow most of their gadgets always look and feel very "plasticky" to me.
But that's not the main issue here.
I've only played with it for maybe 2 minutes.
But already in that short period, it seemed extremely laggy.
Even when flipping through the tiles, some stuttering was pretty obvious.
Surface RT is way smoother.
I hope, Surface Pro will be as "polished" as Surface RT and not similar to Ativ Tab.

My experience has been that right out of the box, yes it is a bit rough; and that is a software/driver issue. But once you run the included Software Updater (which is no mean feat in and of itself) everything smooths out.

The SW Updater updates something like nine or ten "important" issues and a bit fewer nice to have ones. Several of the drivers (video, sound, etc.) as well as the system bios get updated. From reading the in depth reviews, that is consistent with most of the reviewers’ experiences also.

All in all it's still a 32 bit dual core Atom chip, and you're not going to get Core i5 performance out of it, but then the tradeoff is double the battery life and about $400 US off the price.

Oh, and it doesn’t have Windows 8 Pro, it has Windows 8 standard (x86 version). The Pro upgrade adds a few things like Active Directory Support and Remote Desktop that corporate IT departments might want to have, but nothing that I need on my personal machine. If you really need Pro, it can be had from Microsoft Upgrade for about $66 US.
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Initially, I had hoped that the Surface could completely replace my notebook for work-related travel. That turned out to be an unrealistic expectation. The Surface is an excellent traveling companion on short trips where I simply need to stay in touch via email and crank out the occasional document in Word, but for business trips I still need a full-strength notebook. Ironically, that means I’m carrying both a Windows 8 notebook and the Surface in my traveling bag. For my needs, it’s a better fit than an iPad at almost exactly the same price.
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I tried to software Desktopgate on surface and i'm surprised , because of the software is successfully working on that tablet.. ( i would like to give information if you don't know desktopgate, it is software for the remote control monitoring and management..
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