Google's Android is Eating Apple's Lunch

[DustyDisks]

Originally Posted by kennyc

But what's for lunch?

Humble pie/crow?

[PatNY]

Originally Posted by Prestidigitweeze

Are you quite certain your moniker is PatNY and not Fun with Pointless Exceptions?

"The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence."

"No, it isn't. It's exactly the same color!

Are you quite certain you understand it's against forum policy to make personal attacks? Are you quite certain you understand resorting to ad hominem attacks implies a lack of substance to one's argument?

His identifying the Nexus 7 as the next stage of his conversion locates the timeframe so precisely that his book proves anachronistic to the alleged conversion no matter which Android phone he owned.

Not in the linked article. He never identifies the actual point of conversion in terms of a device other than implying it was a 4G device. Which actually rules out the Nexus 7 because it doesn't have 4G.

Now perhaps in another article you've read he identifies exactly what device it was. If so, why don't you share it with others?

Besides which, if the phone in question was owned right before the Nexus 7, then the SIII or SII are the likeliest (though not 100% certain) candidates, esp. since he happens to be a Samsung man.

It could have been either the original S or the SII (or even another android 4G device), in which case your bashing him for writing the book before his adoption of a 4G android device is baseless.

No amount of tap-dancing can erase the mercenary aspect of Kawasaki's advocacy, nor does his being mercenary mean G.K. is inherently evil, insincere, etc. It just means he isn't the white knight that zealous advocates of Android would like him to be.

Perhaps he is a mercenary, but your criticism of him regarding the timing of his conversion was not supported by the linked article.

Though you might find examples of proprietary cables in the short but dizzyingly diverse history of Android, Kawasaki's basic point -- that most Android devices simply require micro-to-USB and that this is an improvement for the user over Apple's connector glee = Zombie Consumer Sandtrap strategy -- still holds muster, Buster.

Actually, both Asus and Samsung use proprietary cables for their tablets. They are two of the biggest tablet makers now, so you don't have to look very far or hard to find examples. Kawasaki also didn't say "most" in his statement. He simply implied you wouldn't need one at all with android. I was just pointing out in some cases you do.

And my name is "Pat"

--Pat

[JD Gumby]

Originally Posted by BWinmill

Modern GPS does include maps. Those maps are often more up to date than paper maps. The key is to use your discretion. Avoid bad roads. Ensure the maps are preloaded. Make sure your device is charged. Check the results. Trust your eyes when on the road. Most of those things have to be done with paper maps as well as with GPS and paper.

Of course, paper maps have the additional headache of finding your current location and your destination - not an easy task when you're unfamiliar with the area (you know, the whole reason you need a map in the first place! ).

[DustyDisks]

Originally Posted by JD Gumby

Of course, paper maps have the additional headache of finding your current location and your destination - not an easy task when you're unfamiliar with the area (you know, the whole reason you need a map in the first place! ).

That and the bigger problem of refolding them! (correctly)

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by DustyDisks

That and the bigger problem of refolding them! (correctly)

Hey! I was gonna say that!

[DustyDisks]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Hey! I was gonna say that!

Snooze ya lose!

[robertc88]

More lunch:

http://news.yahoo.com/apple-shares-o...--finance.html

[Fluribus]

Originally Posted by PatNY

And my name is "Pat"

--Pat

More pat answers.

(Sorry. Apple made me do it.)

[kennyc]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-575...ar-with-apple/

Google's Schmidt: Android is 'winning that war' with Apple

The Google chairman says Android's control over the operating system market looks somewhat similar to the Microsoft versus Apple days of 20 years ago.

by Don Reisinger
December 12, 2012 5:55 AM PST


Google Chairman Eric Schmidt believes that Android's war with iOS is just about over -- and that his team won.

Speaking to Bloomberg in an interview published this morning, Schmidt said Android's ongoing market-share battle with Apple's iOS "is of the scale of 20 years ago -- Microsoft versus Apple." He went on to say that in his opinion, "we're winning that war pretty clearly now."

It might be difficult to argue with Schmidt's point. Research firm IDC reported last month that during the third quarter, Android shipments accounted for 75 percent of the worldwide market. Apple's iOS came in second with 14.9 percent share. During the same period in 2011, Android's share was 57.5 percent ownership, compared with a 13.8 percent share for iOS.

Schmidt's comparison to Windows versus OS X might also be appropriate. Windows was able to dominate the operating system market because a slew of vendors were bundling the software in their products. Apple, meanwhile, kept OS X for itself, and only used the software on its own products.

A similar scenario plays out in the mobile market. There are countless Android-based devices hitting store shelves each year, but there are far fewer iOS-based products.

Schmidt didn't focus his interview only on Apple competition. In a brief mention of Facebook, the Google chairman said he believes Google+ is a "viable competitor to Facebook."
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[rdfry]

Some of us just flat out hate Apple because we don't want to be forced to have to use the same old boring ass phone year after year and have to contribute to their 45% profit margin.

[forsooth]

Originally Posted by rdfry

Some of us just flat out hate Apple because we don't want to be forced to have to use the same old boring ass phone year after year and have to contribute to their 45% profit margin.

Sometimes get different color. Get black not white or get white not black.

[SteveEisenberg]

Originally Posted by rdfry

Some of us just flat out hate Apple because we don't want to be forced to have to use the same old boring ass phone year after year and have to contribute to their 45% profit margin.

As someone who hasn't bought an Apple product in over 20 years, and can't ever recall buying an Apple product that wasn't used, how did I miss out on being forced?

Now, in my youth, I truly had to use the same old boring ass phone year after year. Some people didn't like AT&T, but hate would have been a bit strong.

[frahse]

Originally Posted by SteveEisenberg

As someone who hasn't bought an Apple product in over 20 years, and can't ever recall buying an Apple product that wasn't used, how did I miss out on being forced?

Now, in my youth, I truly had to use the same old boring ass phone year after year. Some people didn't like AT&T, but hate would have been a bit strong.

Was it black painted iron with a cord? That was the first phone I remember. There was a little shelf in the hall for it. Of course we kids liked to play with it and the cord and would get run off.

[HappyMartin]

Funny people now attack Apple over boring phones. First off its not the phone that's boring its the conversations that take place on it and secondly if you are looking for excitement from your phone you might want to think about getting out a little more often and perhaps even taking up a hobby.

As for the boring have we all forgotten what computers actually looked like before Apple launched the G3 and the iMac?

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by HappyMartin

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As for the boring have we all forgotten what computers actually looked like before Apple launched the G3 and the iMac?

Have they changed????