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Old 12-01-2012, 11:40 PM   #76
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Surely we should not aim to keep all knowledge that could be used by some in unethical, or even worse ways, a secret? Where do you draw the line? Who decides?
People learned how to use 3G for tethering and gave out the knowledge. Now the Kindle 3G is limited because of this. It is one thing to mod a Kindle for your own use. It's another to mod a Kindle where it costs Amazon money.
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:41 PM   #77
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Amazon decides where to draw the line. We believe that they locked down the Paperwhite firmware so hard BECAUSE of ad removal without paying amazon.

There is still no (published) method of jailbreaking a kindle that was shipped with 5.3.0 firmware. And even when a PW jailbreak gets published, amazon may be quick to push a firmware update to disable it.

We hope to establish some new rules to convince amazon to let us customize our future kindles. This may require not publishing information here that will harm amazon's profitability enough to keep locking down their devices (amazon lost money last quarter)...

Sometimes a little censorship is required (when people refuse to exercise sufficient self-control). There is a group of developers who agree with this position. Those who wish to remove ads will just have to learn how to use Google (and perhaps a few linux commands).
What I don't get it why people pay for an ad supported Kindle and then want to remove the ads right away without paying. Why not just get a non-ad supported Kindle and be done with it?
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:44 PM   #78
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What I don't get it why people pay for an ad supported Kindle and then want to remove the ads right away without paying. Why not just get a non-ad supported Kindle and be done with it?
It's cheaper.
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:02 AM   #79
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It's cheaper.
Putting an MP3 player in your pocket and walking out the door without paying for it is cheaper too...
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Putting an MP3 player in your pocket and walking out the door without paying for it is cheaper too...
I never buy the SO Kindles. JSWolf wanted to know why they were doing it. I wasn't trying to justify it or anything... Man, I hate threads like this...
I most likely won't respond to a thread like this again.

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Old 12-02-2012, 11:00 AM   #81
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People learned how to use 3G for tethering and gave out the knowledge. Now the Kindle 3G is limited because of this. It is one thing to mod a Kindle for your own use. It's another to mod a Kindle where it costs Amazon money.
Could not agree more and people blatantly mis-using a service (3G) in a way that costs Amazon money, should take responibility for their actions. Just like shop-lifters and all other criminals. Having the information is not the same as using the information.

But to say that not looking at the special offers on the SO Kindles is costing Amazon money is a bit of a stretch for me.

I also think that people who never ever want to look at or use the special offers should just buy the ones without special offers, but I still want the ability to look at and use the special offers, so I don't want them disabled permanently by Amazon. I would appreciate the ability to toggle them on when I want to and toggle them off when I am travelling or in a country where they cannot be used.

It is quite sad that Amazon tries to lock down all development, good and bad. Why not just put the effort to stop the stuff they really believe is hurting them. Or do they really view all development as bad?
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I would appreciate the ability to toggle them on when I want to and toggle them off when I am travelling or in a country where they cannot be used.
If you buy a KSO in the country where they're legally sold (ie the US), and you pay to remove the special offers, you can subsequently toggle them off and on again.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:41 AM   #83
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If you buy a KSO in the country where they're legally sold (ie the US), and you pay to remove the special offers, you can subsequently toggle them off and on again.
Cool! So this means that I can get the special offers also on my non-SO Kindle?
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Cool! So this means that I can get the special offers also on my non-SO Kindle?
You can if you have a US Amazon account. Not otherwise.
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You can if you have a US Amazon account. Not otherwise.
This is great! Even "hated" threads like this can be a source of good information...
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