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Old 11-29-2012, 08:10 AM   #1501
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Unser Reich ist noch unbefleckt und rein. Hoffentlich kommt niemals der Tag des Falles.
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:25 AM   #1502
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Luzifer ist auch nur ein Erzengel, wenngleich ein gefallener. So wie Prometheus.

Ach, du bist vom Himmel gefallen, du strahlender Sohn der Morgenröte. Zu Boden bist du geschmettert, du Bezwinger der Völker. (Jes 14,12)

Es geht nicht »weiter herunter« oder »höher hinauf« als der Mensch.

Es beginnt beim Menschen (zum Beispiel bin ja ich ein Mensch, und nicht nur so ein komisches Internet-Ding, so wie ihr..) und steigt dann weiter durch die Hierarchien. Tiefer hindurch, denn wir leben ja in einer mehrdimensionalen Welt, und das Geistige schwebt nicht einfach über unseren Häuptern, es ist eine Vertiefung der Realität in der Horizontale.

Ich denke da wird einer der Götter der Digitalen Lektüre wohl mal das Corpus Dionysiacum editieren müssen. Denn dort steht das alles erklärt. Vor allen Dingen die De Ecclesiastica Hierarchia ist im Fachbereich der Angelogie eine populäre, unter der Hand weitergerreichte Aufklärungsschrift, der sich sittsame Herren in ihren Mussestunden seit vielen tausend Jahren mit einiger Begeisterung hingeben.

Ex oriente lux..
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:25 AM   #1503
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Luzifer ist auch nur ein Erzengel, wenngleich ein gefallener. So wie Prometheus.
Der Vergleich passt nicht so ganz, weil Prometheus ein Titan und damit ein Gott war und auch sonst mit dem Teufel nicht viel gemein hat.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:50 AM   #1504
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Ja. Es war nicht so sehr als direkter Vergleich gemeint, aber die beiden Motive des Lichts und des Fallens, die sind schon sehr ähnlich.

In der aus der griechisch-philosophischen Tradition stammenden christlichen Angelologie oder in der Hierarchienlehre gibt es keinen Teufel. Darauf wollte ich hinaus. Es gibt eben nur diesen Luzifer-Phosphóros als Träger oder Boten des Lichts.

Und Licht, wer mag das nicht..?

Goethes letzte Worte: Mehr Licht!
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:53 AM   #1505
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Theologie in MR! Wer hätte gedacht, was man auf diesen Seiten noch so alles zu lesen bekommt.

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1. Der Allmächtige, genaugenommen, der Schöpfergott, Bruce Almighty, Alpha und Omega von allem
Da fällt mir aber ein Stein vom Herzen, wo ich doch zum Glück nur Bruce Welch heiße.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:03 AM   #1506
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Dürften wir uns das selbst aussuchen? Dann würde ich mich mal ganz unbescheiden beschweren, dass mir mein Amt als Erzengel nicht exponiert genug ist auf der zweituntersten Engelstufe. Deshalb beantrage ich hiermit die Position ganz, ganz unten: Darf ich Satan sein?
Antrag abgelehnt!

Aber: "nicht exponiert genug"?

Kannste haben:

Das oberste Stockwerk ist noch unbewohnt.

Wir begrüßen:

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Old 11-29-2012, 10:05 AM   #1507
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Ich habe nicht die geringste Ahnung, hatte aber gehofft, den Job auch ohne besondere Qualifikation bekommen zu können, weil ihn sicherlich sonst niemand will.

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Old 11-29-2012, 10:10 AM   #1508
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Der Mephistopheles in Goethes Faust ist eine der beliebtesten Rollen für Schauspieler, die es gibt. Nicht weil der besonders böse wäre (ist er nicht), sondern weil er als einzige Figur die Sympathie des Publikums erhält. Den Faust selber findet das Publikum nämlich nur bei seinem Einstiegsmonolg noch gut.. Der wird dann aber schnell langweilig und nervig mit seinem Gretchen und dem ganzen Blahblah.. Im Theater merkt man das sehr schnell, so wie im Kinosaal auch, was das Publikum mag, und was eher langweilig ist.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:23 AM   #1509
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Antrag abgelehnt!

Aber: "nicht exponiert genug"?

Kannste haben:

Das oberste Stockwerk ist noch unbewohnt.

Wir begrüßen:

Pynch Almighty

Das geht leider nicht, da ich nicht an Gott glaube, ich mich folglich in meiner Allmacht als Ungläubiger sofort in Luft auflösen müsste und vermutlich das ganze Universum gleich mit ins Verderben reiße.

Was mich, wenn ich drüber nachdenke, meinem Wunschjob als Satan näher bringen sollte, so karmisch gesehen.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:40 AM   #1510
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Du glaubst nicht an die Götter? Apollon gibt's für Dich nicht? Pallas Athena? Hermes?

Weisst Du es gibt einen Beweis für ihre Existenz. Sogar Fotos.

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Uhh.. Noch mal Glück gehabt.. Dank Internet wieder mal ein Problem gelöst.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:52 AM   #1511
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Ich habe die Namen rot markiert.

Lieber Erzengel Pynch, unsere Region ist noch nicht durch Sünden befleckt.

Die Hierarchie ist auch nicht ewig und unänderlich, es hängt zusammen von Werken und Gnaden ab.

Parzival kann eure Körper leichter machen und euch höher bringen.

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Old 11-29-2012, 10:59 AM   #1512
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Soso, Rang 5. Also in den Top 3 hätte man ja über ein paar Karmapunkte reden können...

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Old 11-29-2012, 11:08 AM   #1513
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:17 PM   #1514
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Oh, hier wird jetzt aber neuerdings genau aufgepasst!

Dann beeil ich mich mal:

Abenteuer:

Neuhof, W. von: Stürme um Kap Marga. 1934

Dahinter versteckt sich übrigens Walter Kabel.
Und hinter dem ganzen Upload die Hoffnung, dass MTH, der ein wahrer Kabel-Fan ist, sein Versprechen rasch einlöst!

Auf auf denn also, MTH!!
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:24 PM   #1515
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