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Old 11-26-2012, 04:41 PM   #10246
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:45 PM   #10247
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:52 PM   #10248
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No. Though cyanide does affect respiration, this is not the main cause of death.

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No. Although that is the ultimate result
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:55 PM   #10249
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Inhibits oxygen take up by red blood cells.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:04 PM   #10250
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Inhibits oxygen take up by red blood cells.
Still not the cause of death
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:33 PM   #10251
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Hmmm, I was under the impression that a less than thorough post mortem would yield the cause of death as cardiac arrest, especially if the almond smell had dissipated.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:17 PM   #10252
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Hmmm, I was under the impression that a less than thorough post mortem would yield the cause of death as cardiac arrest, especially if the almond smell had dissipated.
I think it's fair to say that you are pretty much right. What I was looking for was the bit about drowning. Death occurs principally by cardiac arrest, which causes the lungs to swarm rapidly next to fluid and you drown in your own fluids.

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Old 11-26-2012, 07:33 PM   #10253
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Well, everyone dies from cardiac arrest.
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Old 11-27-2012, 04:15 AM   #10254
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Well, everyone dies from cardiac arrest.
I guess this may differ between countries, but here in Sweden you can die from brain failure. In other words you are proclaimed dead if there is no brain activity but the heart is still beating.
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:53 AM   #10255
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I guess this may differ between countries, but here in Sweden you can die from brain failure. In other words you are proclaimed dead if there is no brain activity but the heart is still beating.
I guess that's more a legal definition of death?
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:16 AM   #10256
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The point being that cardiac arrest isn't the cause of death.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:19 AM   #10257
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The point being that cardiac arrest isn't the cause of death.
But surely they are still physically alive? Brain death is just a legal definition of death.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:37 AM   #10258
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That is kind of the point. But that is a debate about ethics that has no place in this thread.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:50 AM   #10259
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I guess this may differ between countries, but here in Sweden you can die from brain failure. In other words you are proclaimed dead if there is no brain activity but the heart is still beating.

I've had classrooms full of students who could be proclaimed dead...


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