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Old 11-23-2012, 01:08 PM   #196
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Does work on Glo, running 2.2.1 (r44772, 09.Nov.2012) - with a solid chapter bar.



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Old 11-23-2012, 08:49 PM   #197
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It works! Now what to do with it...

Ok, I can report that the plugin works as advertised on the Glo, with firmware 2.1.5. The only unusual thing is that the clock still appears over the brightness slider when it's activated in the bottom menu bar. I may be confused but was there not also an option for having a dropdown menu for Shelves, replacing the previous 'Reading' and 'Discover' menus, on the home screen? I've just got blank space around my book covers and the Library / Shelves / Tools menus.

So ikarus9999, thanks for the excellent work on this - it seems to offer the possibility of making the device a lot more customisable. How did you work it out? Do Kobo have any docs about the plugin API?

I would really like to know if it's possible to get a true fullscreen mode working through this, using all the screen space for text. I can't believe how much of the screen is not used - it varies from page to page but sometimes it seems like an extra few lines are left empty, far above the page numbers, for some unknown layout reason.

The other big missing feature that I wonder if the plugin can address is the ability to do some kind of 'custom sync', i.e. have the device check a specific server for new books to automatically download - potentially a Dropbox folder, your own computer running Calibre's web server, or any other server space. This would also open up the option of sending articles to the device via browser extensions, something I found very useful to do with the Kindle and which is easy because of the email address they provide to do this.

Also wondering if the plugin allows access to interpreting touchpad gestures? Could anything closer to multi-touch gestures work? Might be nice to have gestures for jumping forward/back by chapters, rather than the cumbersome menu-based default on the Touch/Glo.

Anyway, thanks again, here's to fully open and hackable reading devices. I hope Kobo supports this stuff, as it seems it could give them an edge over the very locked-down Kindle...
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:31 AM   #198
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Installation question

Hi !

I have a (rather stupid) question about the installation of the plugin. The instructions on the first page talk about extracting "test-xx.xx.xx.zip" in the .kobo folder. When I try to do that, I end up with a new folder called "Kobo" with the plugin files inside. The problem is that I already have a "Kobo" folder there, which contains files called "Analytics.conf" and "Kobo ereader.conf". I think this is just a bug due to the fact that my mac computer always extract everything down to the folder level, and that I should put the intermediate "Kobo.tgz" file in the .kobo folder. Am I right ? If not, should I put the plugin files in my already-existing "Kobo" folder ? Or somewhere else ?

(NB: that's on a Kobo Glo running 2.1.5)
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I would really like to know if it's possible to get a true fullscreen mode working through this, using all the screen space for text. I can't believe how much of the screen is not used - it varies from page to page but sometimes it seems like an extra few lines are left empty, far above the page numbers, for some unknown layout reason.
Only happen on long paragraph.
The problem is cause of Adobe reading engine... only way to not have this, is to wait Kobo buy new licence and use last Adobe release.

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Also wondering if the plugin allows access to interpreting touchpad gestures? Could anything closer to multi-touch gestures work? Might be nice to have gestures for jumping forward/back by chapters, rather than the cumbersome menu-based default on the Touch/Glo.
IR modul is only mono-touch on Kobo... so multi-touch options are not possible.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:41 AM   #200
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I see "dumpLayout=false" in koboplugins.ini.
What is it ?
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:40 AM   #201
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Only happen on long paragraph.
The problem is cause of Adobe reading engine... only way to not have this, is to wait Kobo buy new licence and use last Adobe release.
It is related to the "widows" and "orphans" style settings. The default is 3 for both and the reader respects this. If the style of the book sets it to something else, the reader uses that.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:58 AM   #202
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It is related to the "widows" and "orphans" style settings. The default is 3 for both and the reader respects this. If the style of the book sets it to something else, the reader uses that.

Thanks for this info! I tried

Code:
p, body{
widows: 0; 
orphans: 0;
}
in my book conversion stylesheet in Calibre, and it seems to help with these page gaps, but it doesn't stop them completely in some cases. I can tell the setting is doing something though, because if e.g. I set widows to a high value like 10, there are pages with huge amounts of empty space at the bottom where the next paragraph has been withheld.

Still hoping there's a way to have a fullscreen mode which uses all that space at the bottom of the screen. I hope we don't have to wait for Adobe to address it. It seems like the space has been left there so that the bottom menu always has empty space in which to appear (and also to hide the light shadowing) - so I hope Kobo has some control over this.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:00 PM   #203
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It is related to the "widows" and "orphans" style settings. The default is 3 for both and the reader respects this. If the style of the book sets it to something else, the reader uses that.
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Only happen on long paragraph.
The problem is cause of Adobe reading engine... only way to not have this, is to wait Kobo buy new licence and use last Adobe release.


IR modul is only mono-touch on Kobo... so multi-touch options are not possible.
I realise the IR doesn't allow for true multi-touch, so maybe "pinch"-style zoom gestures are not an option... but I was hoping at least that the IR might be able to tell how "broad" a click or swipe is, i.e. how many fingers are being used, which would allow different actions to be taken when two or more fingers were used for a gesture...
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I realise the IR doesn't allow for true multi-touch, so maybe "pinch"-style zoom gestures are not an option...
You can pinch to zoom on the Sony PRS-Tx series of eReaders so some IR touch implementations can do multi-touch.

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I see "dumpLayout=false" in koboplugins.ini.
What is it ?

Up !

Sorry for my late answer. I'm quite busy at work at the moment.

Well this is used to dump the screen layout to stdout. I'm using it to determine the layout elements in the screen. This is how I know which elements I have to modify.
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Hi !

I have a (rather stupid) question about the installation of the plugin. The instructions on the first page talk about extracting "test-xx.xx.xx.zip" in the .kobo folder. When I try to do that, I end up with a new folder called "Kobo" with the plugin files inside. The problem is that I already have a "Kobo" folder there, which contains files called "Analytics.conf" and "Kobo ereader.conf". I think this is just a bug due to the fact that my mac computer always extract everything down to the folder level, and that I should put the intermediate "Kobo.tgz" file in the .kobo folder. Am I right ? If not, should I put the plugin files in my already-existing "Kobo" folder ? Or somewhere else ?

(NB: that's on a Kobo Glo running 2.1.5)

If you extract the 'test-xx.xx.xx.zip' to your '.kobo' directory you should get a file which is called 'Kobo.tgz'. It could be that your unzip program extracts also the contents of the 'Kobo.tgz' file.
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If you extract the 'test-xx.xx.xx.zip' to your '.kobo' directory you should get a file which is called 'Kobo.tgz'. It could be that your unzip program extracts also the contents of the 'Kobo.tgz' file.
Ah yes, thank you, I thought that was the problem. Everything is fine now !
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Thanks for this info! I tried

Code:
p, body{
widows: 0; 
orphans: 0;
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There might be some other styles being used for paragraphs. These need to be modified as well.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:07 AM   #209
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There might be some other styles being used for paragraphs. These need to be modified as well.
Anything in particular? I'm setting margin and padding already...
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:44 AM   #210
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There is a bug in the reading software. The beginning of very long paragraphs (about 4-5 "pages") is always shown on a new page. Annoying.

Orphans ans widows do not have that effect - just two or three lines.
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