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Old 11-19-2012, 11:30 AM   #16
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Hehe... it depends. On the K5 and up, Kindlets actually are quite a nice thing.* They're easy to write, they provide a consistent UI, and they allow you to do pretty much anything (i.e., they can interact with both the Java-based, and the system part of the device) - that is, if you know what to do, and if you escape the "locked-down bumache" - but that part is trivial if you use the Kindlet jailbreak. This is why I personally prefer to write Kindlets, rather than anything else. (yes, they're mostly limited to a specific FW version, but that's also because they do very specific things which are closely coupled to the FW - especially now that Amazon re-obfuscates everything with every new release - if you stick with "pure userland" and don't try to muck with the system internals, that's much more relaxed).

(*) Not so on the K3, because that doesn't support standard Swing UI components. You'll have to reinvent the wheel for many UI things, and even then, it'll still look ugly. I'm still not sure about the K4, but my guess is that it's similar to the K3, i.e., "not good".
Good solid info.

I was thinking of the Keyboard though - because that is the advertised device on his profile. TBH: someone should just look into doing a native port now of skipstone (or something) since it's a "proven" tech route. Must spend a bit of time revisiting my (currently horrific) X-compiler mess...

Thanks for the overview and addendum. Yup on the 5 not so shabby. on the 3... well... I'll just leave that there. (EA did a decent job on Solitaire FWIW)
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Ok I have read all of these posts I know the file is not signed java won't let me I renamed the azw2 file before the upload so yes crrentl the script shell would not run out of the box I did do all lowercase naming. How do I compile java files and how do I fix my zip file. Could someone fix my zip file for me?
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:44 PM   #18
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http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=102386 and http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kindlet_Developer_HowTo

but as I said before much of that is for the Touch and you need to "backport" some of it to the previous SDK.

I'm sorry mate... fixing one file for you won't fix your overall problem.
you need to learn how to do it for yourself.

seems like you are missing just a couple of steps.

If you provided better formatted information about EXACTLY what you are doing (like the commands and the output you get back, errors, screenshots etc)

Yep, it's not a fast process but I don't post all this information you can find in my other posts for the excitement of it... It's so either people can offer me GOOD help (since they actually know what I am trying to do - and how) or so that people in the future who ask the same questions can be directed to read the posts.

I am not typing all that lot out again. The info is out there. And has been provided as links already. Sorry Nathan, there are no substitutes for understanding the material at hand.
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Ok I have read all of these posts I know the file is not signed java won't let me I renamed the azw2 file before the upload so yes crrentl the script shell would not run out of the box I did do all lowercase naming. How do I compile java files and how do I fix my zip file. Could someone fix my zip file for me?
just zip it up??? we know how to unzip things???

How you compile java files (it's a way old link): http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs108/...eclipse-guide/
http://www.mycoding.net/2011/02/comp...am-in-eclipse/
http://help.eclipse.org/helios/index...pi_compile.htm
but seriously you can google all this stuff up - it's not kindle specific.
all the available -kindle- links have been provided. (pretty much)

if you are using Eclipse: Eclipse is automatically compiling your code on the fly.
(with the default build automatically option)

Eclipse compiler: (kinda based on http://jikes.sourceforge.net/)

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An incremental Java compiler. Implemented as an Eclipse builder, it is based on technology evolved from VisualAge for Java compiler. In particular, it allows to run and debug code which still contains unresolved errors.
in a pinch:
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Use the terminal to do it:
javac filename.java
(to compile)
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3...lipse-compiler

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Old 11-20-2012, 07:51 AM   #20
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Ok thanks I will try to fix the errors tonight and then fix them. Hopefully I dont have english homework tonight I did yeasterday so I did not have time last night sorry about that.
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Sorry about my grammer in that last post...
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Sorry about my grammer in that last post...
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BTW, you can edit your posts also after you submitted them, if you need to fix something or add new information.
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Thanks I will work on signing my kindlet asap... btw do I have to sign it everytime i add a new file or just once?
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Auto build. Sign with the shell script. every time. (The example I posted shows how you could test locally AND as a native kindlet) this is very helpful obviously. The Snake game has it in.

I'm assuming linux here. Unsure what you would do for windows.
Jump in and read a few documents if I were you mate. : )
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