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Old 11-13-2012, 11:53 AM   #421
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... Apple's over-litigious behavior."
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:56 AM   #422
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They are sitting running all the time, a badly written one could chew up quite a bit of battery life. Compare that to the very controlled task switching that iOS has currently.
Totally false. Widgets do not "run all the time", have you used an Android device? Either you haven't, or you don't know what you're talking about. There might be a rogue widget out there that is poorly coded and has an impact in battery, but that is not a widget problem, is an application specific problem. Widgets are extremely useful and have no significant impact whatsoever on battery life, if coded properly. You can always tell on Android by inspecting the battery stats.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:08 PM   #423
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They sound quite similar.
I didn't say all widgets would do that, but they open up a possibility that at the moment simply doesn't exist on iOS.
I'm not saying widgets are bad, or that they are not useful, or that the possibility of a poorly coded one outweighs the benefits that they add.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:10 PM   #424
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Widgets are extremely useful and have no significant impact whatsoever on battery life, if coded properly. You can always tell on Android by inspecting the battery stats.
Yup, this certainly seems to be true in my experience.

I avoided widgets when I first started out with Android, but then have slowly installed the ones that I found useful. My tablet now has a clock/weather display, the Napster music player, a twitter feed (Plume), a sound toggle button, email and gmail feeds, a calendar widget and my task display. None of these ever feature as a concerning drain in the battery stats, they're way down the list if I see them at all.

But having them active has transformed my use of the tablet. I've got them across two home screens and it doesn't feel cluttered. My home screen, which has a fair bit of empty space, is for 'play', while I swipe left to get an instant update on 'work'.

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Old 11-13-2012, 12:17 PM   #425
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They sound quite similar.
I didn't say all widgets would do that, but they open up a possibility that at the moment simply doesn't exist on iOS.
I'm not saying widgets are bad, or that they are not useful, or that the possibility of a poorly coded one outweighs the benefits that they add.
You mentioned that widgets run all the time, which is simply false; they stay dormant most of the time.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:24 PM   #426
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Totally false. Widgets do not "run all the time", have you used an Android device? Either you haven't, or you don't know what you're talking about. There might be a rogue widget out there that is poorly coded and has an impact in battery, but that is not a widget problem, is an application specific problem. Widgets are extremely useful and have no significant impact whatsoever on battery life, if coded properly. You can always tell on Android by inspecting the battery stats.
Well yeah, that, but the main thing is you don't have to use them if you don't want to.
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Meanwhile, this is what happens to "sheeple" ...

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Old 11-13-2012, 05:15 PM   #428
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Clarify something for me. Since according to your device list you have an ipod, and since according to you there is no distinction between fans and regular consumers, and since you call apple fans "sheeple" do you call yourself "sheeple"?
All fans are consumers but not all consumers are fans. Meanwhile, all "sheeple" are Apple fans but not all Apple fans are "sheeple." Does that answer your question?

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All fans are consumers but not all consumers are fans. Meanwhile, all "sheeple" are Apple fans but not all Apple fans are "sheeple." Does that answer your question?
So now you say that there are consumers that aren't fans.

In case you forgot, this is what you said before:
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So now you say that there are consumers that aren't fans.

In case you forgot, this is what you said before:
Yes, the specific distinction you were making in your reply I felt was artificial and false/irrelevant in the context of my statement and the discussion. Now tell me, what exactly in my earlier statement do you find in contradiction to what I later said?

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Anyone else read Apples just been granted a patent for turning pages in ebooks.
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Anyone else read Apples just been granted a patent for turning pages in ebooks.
Another completely ridiculous patent issued. Did someone mention a system out of control...



P.S. or perhaps "Completely Controlled" ...hmmm...

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