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Old 11-13-2012, 10:21 AM   #91
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Another hat in the ring for multiple choice voting. That would enable a much more realistic/fair result imo, better than the "all or nothing" approach we use now.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:24 AM   #92
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Another hat in the ring for multiple choice voting. That would enable a much more realistic/fair result imo, better than the "all or nothing" approach we use now.
Yep!

I too would love to see multiple choice voting.

In fact, Tom, can we PLEASE test/try it with this first vote?? Just to see what kind of results we get?

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Old 11-13-2012, 10:42 AM   #93
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I agree. Multiple choice voting is worth trying.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:53 AM   #94
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I wouldn't mind try multiple choice voting, as long as there is some sort of weighting.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:53 AM   #95
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If we were to have multiple choice voting, unless there is a tie for first place, we would not need a run-off vote.
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:27 PM   #96
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I wouldn't mind try multiple choice voting, as long as there is some sort of weighting.
Not sure what you mean or how this would work. Do you mean that the voting would be further complicated by each person expressing an order of preference among two or more choices? That idea has been brought up before and is beyond the capability of the current polling software here.
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:22 PM   #97
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I would love multiple voting! Let's say three votes per person. No weighting necessary in my opinion. If I have a particular clear favourite I don't use all my votes, I just vote for that one.
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:28 PM   #98
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I would love multiple voting! Let's say three votes per person. No weighting necessary in my opinion. If I have a particular clear favourite I don't use all my votes, I just vote for that one.
I like this idea.
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If we were to have multiple choice voting, unless there is a tie for first place, we would not need a run-off vote.
Agree!
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Old 11-13-2012, 04:42 PM   #100
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Not sure what you mean or how this would work. Do you mean that the voting would be further complicated by each person expressing an order of preference among two or more choices? That idea has been brought up before and is beyond the capability of the current polling software here.
Yes. I want to be able to specify which one I want to win, and which I would like second, and so on down the line.

I also like open polling as it makes the polls more lively. I dislike the anticipation of waiting 10 days to see the outcome.

And if we are going to have closed voting, shouldn't there be a ban on discussing how people voted before the poll closes.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:43 PM   #101
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Multiple choice voting would eliminate many of these arguments.

With multiple choice voting, one can vote for all the books one wants to read the most. So there'd be no worry about choosing between voting for one's absolute favourite or voting strategically.

It would also give people more choice and lead to more votes and larger percentages for each book, and can lead to more people participating.

I've seen support for it from various people in different threads, and I think it would solve many of this club's problems that create these arguments.


I would propose to have a vote on multiple choice vs single choice before a vote on open vs closed, since open vs closed is contentious no matter which wins, and many of those contention points can be solved by a multiple choice vs single choice vote. After that, an open vs closed vote could go smoother with less argument between those who favour open and those who favour closed.
Nice. I'd like to try that.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:01 PM   #102
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Yes. I want to be able to specify which one I want to win, and which I would like second, and so on down the line.
Not possible.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:11 PM   #103
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And if we are going to have closed voting, shouldn't there be a ban on discussing how people voted before the poll closes.
Logically there should! But that would certainly take away even more of the fun! The discussions while voting used to be so interesting before the open/closed disussion infected them. Not only did the arguing itself ruin things, it also "throttled" other discussions.
Of course I realize this might be a good thing for me, because my TBR is way too long already, and many books there are non-winneres from the book club that caught my attention thanks to the discussions. That doesn't happen as often now.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:07 AM   #104
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Yes. I want to be able to specify which one I want to win, and which I would like second, and so on down the line.
The software doesn't allow this, and that's not likely to change anytime soon.

As far as I know, the software doesn't allow "select 3 choices;" people are on the honor system for that. (However, mods could throw out all votes by anyone who selects 4 or more; that would require more work on their part, but probably not be required often.)

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I'm torn on open-vs-closed voting.

On the one hand, if the vote is closed, people vote for what they want to read & discuss, not what they think is likely to win. On the other, as the keeper of the list, if the vote is open, I know which book won sooner.

No strong opinions either way.
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I also vote 2nd chance
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