Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Readers > Apple Devices

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-10-2012, 12:10 PM   #16
Shykat
Zealot
Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Shykat's Avatar
 
Posts: 112
Karma: 494052
Join Date: Dec 2010
Device: iPhone, iPad Mini, and my PC :)
I think I'm pretty much searching for the same thing you are, Sumguy.

I'm thinking of getting an iPad Mini. I already have my iPhone 4S.

I want to be reading a book on my iPhone then stop, pick up my Mini and resume reading the same book at the same spot. I don't need to read on my computer (PC). I just want to be able to read the same book on the two different hand held devices.

My ebooks are in epub format and are non-drm. I've gotten them from so many different places but keep them on my PC and currently load them into DropBox and then onto my iPhone for reading.

I don't think I would want to read a book while it was in the "cloud" since it would use up too much data transfer time and wouldn't work if you didn't have a constant wifi connection. What would work for me would be an ebook program that would let you read on one device, then when you switch to the other, have it send a signal of some sort to the other device telling it where you stopped reading the ebook and just start at that point. A wifi connection would hopefully work for just the short time needed to send the information between devices. Either make it automatic (my preference) or on request.

I'm currently reading ebooks on my iPhone with ShuBooks. It has features that work great for me ... my main one of being able to sort ebooks in the order I load them onto the device.... but no way of syncing.

Is there ANY program out there that actually will sync books like you can if you buy them from Amazon and read with a Kindle or Kindle software? It's a super nice feature but I don't buy my books from Amazon.
Shykat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 05:40 PM   #17
Philantrop
Addict
Philantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beauty
 
Philantrop's Avatar
 
Posts: 258
Karma: 32099
Join Date: Dec 2008
Device: iOS devices
iBooks, Kindle and Kobo support that, provided you download the ebook(s) on all devices you're using.

I'm using iBooks on both my iPad and iPhone. At home, I read on my iPad; on the road I'm using my iPhone. Synching reading positions, bookmarks, highlights, etc. works just fine (automatically) over both WiFi and cellular networks and doesn't cause a lot of data traffic.

Kindle only synchronises manually, AFAIK, and only the *latest* position. I don't like that.

Kobo is out of the question for me for serious usage since it *requires* registration to do anything at all. Plus: I really don't like its look. Synchronising worked for me when I tested it once (for the article in my signature).
Philantrop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 05:47 PM   #18
sumguy
Connoisseur
sumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheese
 
Posts: 52
Karma: 1186
Join Date: Jun 2012
Device: none
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shykat View Post
I don't need to read on my computer (PC).
Then no, you're not searching for the same thing as me. I'm only talking about syncing between a Mac and an iPhone.

The Kindle app will do what you want. You can upload your own e-books as "personal documents", for example by using the "send to kindle" app on your computer. You can convert books in epub format reasonably easily to the mobi format for Kindle, using Calibre etc.

Also iBooks might do the same thing, but I really don't know - I only have one iOS device, so I've never tried syncing my own epubs. Probably there's another topic covering that...
sumguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 05:51 PM   #19
sumguy
Connoisseur
sumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheese
 
Posts: 52
Karma: 1186
Join Date: Jun 2012
Device: none
Quote:
Originally Posted by Philantrop View Post
iBooks, Kindle and Kobo support that, provided you download the ebook(s) on all devices you're using.
Just to be clear:"devices" doesn't include a Mac, which is the topic of this thread...

But one thing before we get back on topic - Kindle does automatically sync reading position, bookmarks, and highlights, between iOS and Kindle devices, via wifi and cell networks. Sometimes it takes a while though, in my experience.

Last edited by sumguy; 11-10-2012 at 06:05 PM.
sumguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 06:03 PM   #20
Philantrop
Addict
Philantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beauty
 
Philantrop's Avatar
 
Posts: 258
Karma: 32099
Join Date: Dec 2008
Device: iOS devices
Quote:
Originally Posted by sumguy View Post
Kindle does automatically sync reading position, bookmarks, and highlights, between iOS and Kindle devices, via wifi and cell networks. Sometimes it takes a while though, in my experience.
Well, for me (on iOS), it always asks if I want to jump to my last reading position and I have to confirm that. So, I'd call that semi-automatic. :-)
Philantrop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 06:17 PM   #21
Shykat
Zealot
Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Shykat's Avatar
 
Posts: 112
Karma: 494052
Join Date: Dec 2010
Device: iPhone, iPad Mini, and my PC :)
HHuummm, so iBooks does sync between hand held devices?

I'm assuming, just so long as you have the ebook loaded on each device, the program just sends the "bookmark" type data from one to the other over wifi?
Shykat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 08:02 PM   #22
Philantrop
Addict
Philantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beautyPhilantrop does all things with Zen-like beauty
 
Philantrop's Avatar
 
Posts: 258
Karma: 32099
Join Date: Dec 2008
Device: iOS devices
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shykat View Post
HHuummm, so iBooks does sync between hand held devices?
Yes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shykat View Post
I'm assuming, just so long as you have the ebook loaded on each device, the program just sends the "bookmark" type data from one to the other over wifi?
Not directly. It obviously uses iCloud for that because it does it over cellular networks, too.
Philantrop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 05:59 AM   #23
sumguy
Connoisseur
sumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheese
 
Posts: 52
Karma: 1186
Join Date: Jun 2012
Device: none
So it seems iBooks does sync bookmarks etc., for sideloaded non-drm epubs, via iCloud. If only Apple would come out with iBooks for Mac, then... problem solved. Why they don't have a Mac app, when all the other major platforms do, is a mystery. I suppose they sell more iPads that way. I for one will continue to get my purchased books from Amazon, since they sync between my MacBook Air, iPhone, and Kindle. I will also continue to complain that it's impossible to sync non-drm books between my MacBook and iPhone! If there was, I'd ditch my Kindle for an iPad Mini in a minute...

Last edited by sumguy; 11-11-2012 at 06:04 AM.
sumguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 12:17 PM   #24
Shykat
Zealot
Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Shykat's Avatar
 
Posts: 112
Karma: 494052
Join Date: Dec 2010
Device: iPhone, iPad Mini, and my PC :)
For me, if iBooks would sort ebooks in the order I load them and keep them in that order, I would be getting an iPad Mini as well and be very happy!

I wouldn't mind having a version of the iBooks reader for my PC desktop if syncing and sorting were available, too!
Shykat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2012, 06:56 PM   #25
kyteflyer
Wizard
kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
kyteflyer's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,122
Karma: 1835838
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Device: iPhone, iPad Mini
Quote:
Originally Posted by sumguy View Post
kyteflyer, thanks for your comments, but I think you are completely missing what I need :-)

What I want is to read and sync non-drm ebooks, i.e., third-party books I load myself. There are several solutions that support reading on the computer and syncing to an iOS app, including Kobo and Kindle, but only with drm books you bought from their store.

As far as I can tell, the new Sony iOS app doesn't even support that. I think it supports it on Android, not sure, but that doesn't help me... I hope it's something they'll add in the future.
No, I didnt miss what you need. I read non-DRM books in Kobo on the phone (well I dont now, but I have- Ive gone back to Stanza and iBooks), I thought perhaps Kobo might also allow it on the desktop. Whatever.

Additionally, I'm sure someone else said you can sync non-DRM books on Kindle between desktop and app (booksmarks? dunno) but you do have to convert those books to Kindle format
kyteflyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 02:33 AM   #26
kyteflyer
Wizard
kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
kyteflyer's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,122
Karma: 1835838
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Device: iPhone, iPad Mini
I got all excited today, thinking I had found a solution to this conundrum... but I havent. It was in the Bookreader app, from the Mac App store. I downloaded the Lite version which only allows one book at a time, and imported an already bookmarked book from itunes, but I guess the bookmarks don't persist in the import because they don't seem to be saved *in* the book. I thought they were, for some reason. Oh well.. I wrote to the dev and asked if it was planned for a future version because if it is, I'll have no hesitation in stumping up for the full version. Its a nice app.

[edit] Crikey, the dev is very responsive! Already have a reply, within minutes of my query... here's the answer, and sadly not what one hoped for
Quote:
Hi Sue,

The problem is that Apple's SDK doesn't allow BookReader to access iCloud data of other applications.
I hope in the future such access will be granted.


Best regards,

-----
L.Y.Mesentsev
Naturally, I have asked him to consider creating a reader for iOS which would a) sync the bookmarks with the desktop reader and b) be a Stanza clone. LOL. couldnt resist.

Last edited by kyteflyer; 11-25-2012 at 02:43 AM.
kyteflyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 01:47 PM   #27
sumguy
Connoisseur
sumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheesesumguy can extract oil from cheese
 
Posts: 52
Karma: 1186
Join Date: Jun 2012
Device: none
Quote:
Originally Posted by kyteflyer View Post
Additionally, I'm sure someone else said you can sync non-DRM books on Kindle between desktop and app (booksmarks? dunno) but you do have to convert those books to Kindle format
Unfortunately no. There's no connection between the "personal documents" feature on iOS/Kindle hardware, and the Kindle for Mac desktop application. It's possible to manually sideload books into Kindle for Mac, but it's a separate process and they don't sync in any way with the devices.

You get three options:
1. sideload books into kindle or iOS device via USB:
- local to the device, doesn't sync with other devices.
2. sideload books into Kindle for Mac, by drag-and-drop:
- local to Kindle for Mac, doesn't sync with any devices.
3. send books to the Kindle e-mail address, or use the "Send to Kindle" app on the desktop:
- will load into "Personal Documents" section in the Amazon cloud, and sync between Kindle and iOS devices. Will *not* load or sync into Kindle for Mac (this is the missing link!)
sumguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 04:55 PM   #28
Shykat
Zealot
Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Shykat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Shykat's Avatar
 
Posts: 112
Karma: 494052
Join Date: Dec 2010
Device: iPhone, iPad Mini, and my PC :)
I wonder if any of the ebook creators could use something like a free cloud server like DropBox for those of use who really would like to have our ebooks synced.
Shykat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 04:53 AM   #29
kyteflyer
Wizard
kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
kyteflyer's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,122
Karma: 1835838
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Device: iPhone, iPad Mini
Its really frustrating. I like reading on the computer sometimes and Bookreader is a nice app (so is Kitabu, which is free) but without bookmark syncing its all a bit of a furphy. sighh. Might write to the Kitabu guy too.
kyteflyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 04:54 AM   #30
kyteflyer
Wizard
kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kyteflyer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
kyteflyer's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,122
Karma: 1835838
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Device: iPhone, iPad Mini
Quote:
Originally Posted by sumguy View Post
Unfortunately no. There's no connection between the "personal documents" feature on iOS/Kindle hardware, and the Kindle for Mac desktop application......

- will load into "Personal Documents" section in the Amazon cloud, and sync between Kindle and iOS devices. Will *not* load or sync into Kindle for Mac (this is the missing link!)
They don't like to make things easy or even halfway sensible, do they
kyteflyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Aldiko Sync - Sync your Aldiko books/bookmarks across devices GameGod Android Devices 52 08-22-2012 12:47 AM
can i sync bookmarks from Stanza in Calibre? atmex Devices 6 06-05-2012 01:13 PM
Touch Any hack/work-around to sync bookmarks of non Kobo ePub (kepub) andsoitgoes Kobo Reader 3 04-03-2012 04:56 PM
PRS-T1 Sync causes duplication of bookmarks 4691mls Sony Reader 20 02-28-2012 07:14 PM
Automatic Sony Read Sync Script for Mac and Mekentosj Papers Sync smash0190 Sony Reader 1 03-12-2009 07:41 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:03 AM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.