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Old 11-05-2012, 01:56 PM   #46
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Woah! @_@ What is that?

I noticed that mounting image from /mnt/us leads to hangs on heavy IO usage, like aptitude does, so I'm using /mnt/base-us instead, without that additional proxy layer and it seems to be working well here. However, i've never seen anything like that
yep. also that takes fuse fsp out of the equation which causes hangs. I believe.

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I noticed that mounting image from /mnt/us leads to hangs on heavy IO usage, like aptitude does, so I'm using /mnt/base-us instead, without that additional proxy layer and it seems to be working well here. However, i've never seen anything like that
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/dev/loop/debian 1.2G 1.4G 16.0E 122% /mnt/debian
heh. oops

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And now AFTER I do a much tidier job of the initial startup:

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/dev/loop/debian 1.2G 375.1M 820.8M 31% /mnt/debian
Beware apt-get recommends!

With the games, the browser, and assorted goodies that you could call an "install" I got it down to:

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/dev/loop/debian 1.2G 412.7M 783.2M 35% /mnt/debian
Which is not too shabby, assuming that you were happy with just those things and the logs could be sensibly cleared away automagically a 500 MB games install would be realistic - if not "roomy".

Also pushing all downloads to the FAT user-store might be one slightly less suicidal option than overfilling the loop.

: ) Fun!

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I'm playing with trying:
rsync -uvS --ipv4 --ignore-times --progress /multistrap-debian-sid/rsync/debian.ext3 root@kt:/mnt/us/debian.ext3

from the PC to restore back to a known good configuration. See how that goes

Did I mention while it was mounted ? hehehe

EDIT: Okay. Rsync works great. even when the target is mounted. (I even faffed around with it to be extra naughty). The only thing is it must either be cleanly unmounted / remounted or the system restarted otherwise df -h still reports the old free space amount.

Other than that works perfectly

me@dev ~ $ rsync -uvL --inplace --ipv4 --ignore-times --progress \
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sent 98909805 bytes received 256511 bytes 76724.42 bytes/sec
total size is 1342177280 speedup is 13.53
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Debian Games (port thought)

so... after having a look through the majority of the browsers on offer (and finding the non-runners) I figured since you highlighted games I would spend a few (long hours) grabbing down some games.

Since this is a highly tedious and long process I will make quick notes about my tests to save duplicated effort. Way I figure it if it runs fairly decently in the harness it would only run better natively : )

Also it's a nice way to get a handle on footprints since this is rarely documented.

The absence of python-games makes a few sets of games currently inaccessible. however I think I have a python-games build for the 3 / 5 so that is not insurmountable. there may be a route already out there for support that I just don't know about.

Games That Didn't Work with no effort

Airstrike. Ran once with impressive graphics but hangs far too much. good to see QT really shining.

Armegetron Advanced (I would like to test the old one too...)

atris (this almost works, need to hack the colors in the source is all now)

biloba

Games That Just Work with no effort

attal: (Option "fast server" will hang client - otherwise pretty solid)

ace-of-penguins: cards - a variety. under test. "H" to see help. Esc or Q to quit. Double click to auto place... fun

Taipei also works great from the ace-of-penguins range (would suit a rotated screen)

KsirK - Risk Clone - works surprisingly well (can do 2 player AI)

TBC.
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Really enjoyed this one - bit fiddly but fun
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Debian on the 3. with X. Most keys and five-way support.

Kindle: Start server
Xvfb -fp /mnt/us/sh/fonts/X11/100dpi/ -noreset -nolisten tcp -screen 0 600x800x8

Kindle: Launch debian... (use amended version of DOS's script)

Kindle: attach vnc
x11vnc -forever -shared -noxdamage -noncache

Kindle: Update display
/mnt/us/kindlevncviewer/kvncviewer.sh 127.0.0.1:0 &

PC: xtightvncviewer kindle (or whatever you use) to get extra pointer and symbols until that gets sorted.

This is now tested as working on a k3.
Via Xvfb. With keys and 5 way working surprisingly OOTB.

Not sure how I will manage the color issues at this point - probably hack the Xresources or something. The games don't want to run unamended.
background color issues though. so maybe not major.

nor does the pointer "highlighting" work (you cant see where it is right now) - but the 5 way does does navigate around menus and pages now

I might think about checking the cursors, see if I can bodge something for visual location output.

But that lot aside:

So this should work as is on the 4 - obviously a usb kb and mouse would make this shine. HTH. I don't think I will test it any further right now

"Proof of Life" anyways

definately going to need HID on a 4NT though
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Wow, this is amazing! I didn't expect it to be usable at all on any non-touch Kindle. Nice job!

I hope I'll get 5.3.0 jailbroken soon, so I'll be able to continue playing with Debian...
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I hope I'll get 5.3.0 jailbroken soon, so I'll be able to continue playing with Debian...
Get a serial Cable. be part of the solution

I am always happy to build on the work of others. Really pleased to get this going on the 3. and super pleased about the keys and 5 way support working OOTB (almost)

Digging deeper on the games fail:

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Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".

(cube:30300): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",

(cube:30300): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",

(cube:30300): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",

(cube:30300): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",

** (cube:30300): ERROR **: couldn't allocate background (#dcdad5)
so perhaps I can fix that. RSN. Glad you are happy. Get a serial cable
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I am always happy to build on the work of others. Really pleased to get this going on the 3. and super pleased about the keys and 5 way support working OOTB (almost)

Digging deeper on the games fail:

so perhaps I can fix that. RSN. Glad you are happy. Get a serial cable
Try to play with Xephyr parameters. AFAIR I have enabled greyscale mode in my scripts, but looks like some part of color handling is still configured in a wrong way on your 3.
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That is excellent advice. but i am not running Xephyr. I was running this on Xvfb right now until I manage to get a (native) Xephyr build for the 3.

I will try piggybacking Xephyr now. That was all injected directly into Xvfb.

Thanks for the tip!

EDIT: Brilliant - all games working now. : )

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[2] + Done mnt/us/kindlevncviewer/kvncviewer.sh 127.0.0.1:0 2> /dev/null &

[3] + Done(3) x11vnc -forever -shared -nopw -noxdamage -noncache &

[1] + Done Xvfb -noreset -screen 0 600x800x8 -bs -wr +extension RANDR +extension XTEST +extension XINERAMA +extension MIT-SHM -fc cursor &
On the 3! YEAH!

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That is excellent advice. but i am not running Xephyr. I was running this on Xvfb right now until I manage to get a (native) Xephyr build for the 3.

I will try piggybacking Xephyr now. That was all injected directly into Xvfb.

Thanks for the tip!
Look at my scripts. I used Xephyr from inside Debian on native X server (does 3 run X server? It may be still good idea to use Xephyr wrapper over Xvfb, in case when Xvfb has problems with colorsets). This way I don't need native builds at all, just Debian prepackages ones.
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Look at my scripts. I used Xephyr from inside Debian on native X server (does 3 run X server? It may be still good idea to use Xephyr wrapper over Xvfb, in case when Xvfb has problems with colorsets). This way I don't need native builds at all, just Debian prepackages ones.
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Look at my scripts. I used Xephyr from inside Debian on native X server (does 3 run X server? It may be still good idea to use Xephyr wrapper over Xvfb, in case when Xvfb has problems with colorsets). This way I don't need native builds at all, just Debian prepackages ones.
Hi mate. I have read them inside out

That is exactly what I am now doing

much obliged, just working on getting a cursor to show for the 5 way : D

It's still a bit ugly but I could easily tidy it all up. obviously a few niggles to fix.

EDIT: Ive added some screenshots that have been monochromed and then average/median/lightness balanced to give you an idea of real output.

Some is a bit dark. as you can see the default color scheme has gone a bit wacky for some reason? - I'll fix that Also I have to manually start /usr/bin/matchbox-desktop for some reason... but yeah. it's a worker

Number input works (via ALT + Q W E R T etc)

5 way works less well in single column mode.

I've left in what currently comes out the vnc screen as some of the screenies at the end. HUGLY!
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Old 11-10-2012, 12:27 AM   #59
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root@kindle:/dev# chmod 664 /dev/null
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crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 1, 3 Nov 8 00:43 null
or matchbox-session is sad

Better now. time to fix the colors

EDIT:

hmm better. but not much... working on it.

Looks nice on the screen now.
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core2quad ~ $ ls -al /dev/null
crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 2012-11-07 09:51 /dev/null
Everybody and anybody may write to /dev/null.

Which would be: chmod 666 /dev/null
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core2quad ~ $ stat /dev/null
  File: `/dev/null'
  Size: 0             Blocks: 0          IO Block: 4096   character special file
Device: 5h/5d    Inode: 5356        Links: 1     Device type: 1,3
Access: (0666/crw-rw-rw-)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
Access: 2012-11-07 09:51:46.363778109 -0600
Modify: 2012-11-07 09:51:46.363778109 -0600
Change: 2012-11-07 09:51:46.363778109 -0600
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