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Old 10-30-2012, 07:44 AM   #1
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Windows Surface 8 RT

I've got mine 1h ago.
I'll post more details in my thread "8+ readers"...

In brief:
The soft keyboard is surprisingly responsive, very nice.
The Surface is stylish and businesslike. I think, its design can be best compared to Motorola Xoom 1.

Working with touchscreen and keyboard in parallel needs some time to getting used to.
But it certainly is a whole new experience and is unparalleled on iOS or Android.

So far, I like it. But I'll probably get a stylus. After all: It's still Windows and scroll bars and icons are a bit tough to operate with your fingers.
Still: Over all, so far, a pleasant surprise.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:58 AM   #2
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:14 AM   #3
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Will look forward to your impressions.
It's definitely less intuitive than iOS or even Android.
As always with Windows: You can do much more, but on the other hand this means more potential mistakes as well.
For example, the Store shows "UK" for me, although my account clearly is a German one.
Still: Very interesting and unique experience so far.
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It's definitely less intuitive than iOS or even Android.
As always with Windows: You can do much more, but on the other hand this means more potential mistakes as well.
For example, the Store shows "UK" for me, although my account clearly is a German one.
Still: Very interesting and unique experience so far.
Windows never has been much for "training wheels."
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Apparently they will even integrate Adobe flash into IE 10 on Windows RT. Pressreader and Zinio apps are also available --- this is sounding better and better. Now my only problem is that the Surface looks so different from my Touchpad, even my wife would notice that I have a new device.....

The only thing holding me back right now is the missing stylus support for RT.

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I'm interested in your experience with the bundled Office software. I understand Outlook is not included. So what can be used on Surface to do email?
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Now my only problem is that the Surface looks so different from my Touchpad, even my wife would notice that I have a new device.....
Oooh... Not. Good.
That usually ends with the PC coming with a "mandatory piano accessory".


If you value pen support, the Pro will *really* tickle your fancy so you'd better start saving for the piano.
(Hmm, I'll have to check and see if the Lenovo supports pen input.)
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I'm interested in your experience with the bundled Office software. I understand Outlook is not included. So what can be used on Surface to do email?
Maybe outlook.com.
Have you checked it out?
It is very impressive.
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Oooh... Not. Good.
That usually ends with the PC coming with a "mandatory piano accessory".


If you value pen support, the Pro will *really* tickle your fancy so you'd better start saving for the piano.
(Hmm, I'll have to check and see if the Lenovo supports pen input.)
Originally I was thinking about the Pro, however, if the RT could do everything I want why not go for the device that weighs a lot less and offers much longer battery life?
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I'm interested in your experience with the bundled Office software. I understand Outlook is not included. So what can be used on Surface to do email?
That's right: Outlook is not included.
There's a simple Email client, good enough.
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Touch gestures and multi-tasking

Wow!
The touch gestures are great. Somewhat similar to BlackBerry PlayBook.
You can swipe from app to app.
You can place 2 apps next to each other and move a separation bar to define the size for each app.
Cool! Neither iOS nor Android offer anything similar.
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Tile sizes

You can change the size of the tiles.
Some show a preview, for example tiles of news apps.
Others are twice as big as normal tiles without apparent reason, so you can decrease their size on your own.
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Apparently they will even integrate Adobe flash into IE 10 on Windows RT. Pressreader and Zinio apps are also available --- this is sounding better and better. Now my only problem is that the Surface looks so different from my Touchpad, even my wife would notice that I have a new device.....

The only thing holding me back right now is the missing stylus support for RT.
I've checked all the apps (not too many yet).
I didn't find PressReader (no use for Germany anyway) nor Zinio (one of my favorite apps, I have more than 15GB of magazines).

Strange enough: I haven't found a "search" option in the store yet. For now, it's usually about 500 apps per category, so you simply can scroll through all of them. But at some stage this won't be possible anymore.
And even now, with only a few hundred apps, I'd prefer searching for my favorites instead of hoping to stumble over them.
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News apps

Some news apps are the best I've seen so far on any OS.
"Spiegel Magazin" for example, a German news magazine.
On iOS and Android, it pretty much looks the same.
You have your table of content, quite similar to a regular paper magazine.
But on Surface RT, the table of content is tiles. Way more convenient, way more stylish, way more neatly arranged. Impressive!
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I bought a Surface RT also and believe it is super awesome. It's a tablet where you can actually get serious work done. The Windows 8 Modern UI is way better than Android and iOS.

FYI, don't carry the Surface RT in a bag, sans case or sleeve, with a metal spiral notebook. It will scratch There goes my resale value.
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