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Old 10-22-2012, 10:39 AM   #1
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:00 AM   #2
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I doubt I would take much notice of a questionable blogger giving at best 2nd hand information. He really gives very few facts. I suspect she either did do something wrong or perhaps a family member using her account did. At any rate, why in the world didn't this person pick up the telephone and call CS rather than relying on email? The whole story sounds fishy to me.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:18 AM   #3
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He really gives very few facts.
The problem is, assuiming these emails are genuine, Amazon is the one not giving facts here, not the blogger. If she did something "wrong" with her account, why are they not open about it in their answer? Would you be happy to be told you are punished, and not being told why (even if you perfectly knew you had committed some violation)? How can she defend herself then?
Furthermore, this means that Amazon can unilaterally close your account and lock you out of your purchases. Can you imagine if a publisher entered your home and took all your books?
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:29 PM   #5
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The story is not just a blog post any longer. It's been picked up by the Consumerist. This general type of event has also been long expected.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:41 PM   #6
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The story is not just a blog post any longer. It's been picked up by the Consumerist. This general type of event has also been long expected.
According to that article, this isnt the first time she abused the system and got caught. No sympathy at all.

Abuses the system, gets caught, Abuses the system again and gets caught, them cries that its not fair.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:45 PM   #7
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According to that article, this isnt the first time she abused the system and got caught. No sympathy at all.

Abuses the system, gets caught, Abuses the system again and gets caught, them cries that its not fair.
What was her abuse of the system?
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:47 PM   #8
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According to that article, this isnt the first time she abused the system and got caught. No sympathy at all.

Abuses the system, gets caught, Abuses the system again and gets caught, them cries that its not fair.
WRONG! According to the article she is linked to a banned account. But that doesn't mean she did anything wrong. The other account holder could have been at fault. So if the wto of us had linked account (however that happens) and I got banned and you did nothing wrong but still got banned, how did you abuse the system to deserve to be banned? You didn't. Now do you get it?

How do you have linked accounts at Amazon?
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:00 PM   #9
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I *think* in these cases the suggestion is that the user has previously had another account that has been banned. Amazon might not be able to prove that it is the same person, but they have used the same computer to access both accounts (though it might be that someone else in their household is at fault and they are perfectly innocent). Just exactly the same way people who are banned from forums sometimes find they can't simply re-open another forum account using another name.
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:04 PM   #10
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WRONG! According to the article she is linked to a banned account. But that doesn't mean she did anything wrong. The other account holder could have been at fault. So if the wto of us had linked account (however that happens) and I got banned and you did nothing wrong but still got banned, how did you abuse the system to deserve to be banned? You didn't. Now do you get it?

How do you have linked accounts at Amazon?
That like saying if I walk into a bank with a friend, he robs it, I just watch, and we leave together, that Im not guilty of bank robbery.
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That like saying if I walk into a bank with a friend, he robs it, I just watch, and we leave together, that Im not guilty of bank robbery.
Well, you wouldn't be guilty of bank robbery in my imperfect opinion.
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:29 PM   #13
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There's no evidence she abused the system. There are only assumptions by those who are already invested in the Amazon ecosystem and tell themselves the company is too big to make mistakes.
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Yes it does. *sigh* It seems there is always more to the story too than is originally let on by the person who has the account closed.

The whole wiping her Kindle part I find hard to believe. The archive becomes unavailable of course but removing content I've never heard of.

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There's no evidence she abused the system. There are only assumptions by those who are already invested in the Amazon ecosystem and tell themselves the company is too big to make mistakes.
Where as your assumption that amazon must of had made a mistake and that she didnt abuses the system should go without question. I mean, amazon is a company so it must be evil, right?
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