Kindle user says Amazon remotely wiped her whole library [UPDATED: see first post]

[Lyn2012]

This is exactly why I am reluctant to buy a Kindle. As other have posted, I keep my library stored at home with multiple back ups, and it is all DRM free.

[Catlady]

This makes me very happy that my e-readers are not wi-fi.

Amazon is not even considering the possibility of some computer error (I noticed that in the above-linked MR thread about a similar situation, the "reason" was the same--a RELATED account was the problem) and that Amazon is denying the customer access to legitimately purchased content, without advance warning.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Namekuseijin

oh good, one more reason for a merry DRM-free Caliber library. I feel a bit sorry for these kind of ignorant consumers, but not much: ignorance must be punished.

if you ever don't want anymore my Brazilian money you just tell, Amazon

How can you be ignorant of something you didn't know was possible? If a linked account is because they have the same address, then that's not fair and not right.

[chilady1]

Originally Posted by Apache

Every book I buy is stripped and backed up on multiple drives. If they want my books they will have to pry them from my cold dead hands.
Apache

I love my Kindle and I don't have a major issue with my Kindle and access, however, having said that, I don't turn on my WiFi all the time and to Apache's comment: Ditto and Amen!

I paid for these books in whatever format, they are mine so if today it is Kindle and tomorrow something else, my library stays with me.

[AnemicOak]

This seems to come up about ever six months or so...

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=173468
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=158314

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by Lyn2012

This is exactly why I am reluctant to buy a Kindle. As other have posted, I keep my library stored at home with multiple back ups, and it is all DRM free.

Then you'd have absolutely zero trouble if you followed the very same practices with Amazon purchases.

I guess I don't quite understand why anyone would feel any safer purchasing, de-DRMing, and backing up non-Amazon ebooks than they would purchasing, de-DRMing and backing-up Amazon content. If you're going to take a proactive stance on de-DRMing and backing up your own purchases, surely where you get your content from is of very little consequence?

[jocampo]

My only concern or comment would be ... I guess is technically possible for Amazon, to check fur DRM free books?

If that's the case, I wonder what type of violation agreements we'll be incurring, as we should not strip down DRM in USA even if we legally paid Amazon for it....

And the follow up question ... does Calibre remove any potential file identification (Amazon books) after liberating the file???

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by jocampo

And the follow up question ... does Calibre remove any potential file identification (Amazon books) after liberating the file???

Calibre itself takes no active role in the liberation (or identity cleansing) of ebooks.

[Sydney's Mom]

I want to know what is going on in the UK?

[Zzyzx]

Originally Posted by elemenoP

She lives in Norway. Is she legally allowed to buy ebooks from EITHER Amazon.co.uk OR Amazon.com?

eP

Yes. What makes you think we're not allowed? Amazon.com sells an international Kindle to Norwegian customers, even with whispernet access. An extensive library of e-books is available to us.

This is why I always run my newly bought e-books through Calibre and a few select add-ons. I could of course go completely pirate but I think authors deserve at least some money for their books. Funny thing is, if I want to pay for books, Amazon provides the path of least resistance for us Norwegians.

If Amazon tries to pull similar crap with me, I will probably try to get help from Norwegian consumer authorities. The same guys that made Apple drop DRM in iTunes a few years ago.

[Barty]

Originally Posted by Apache

Every book I buy is stripped and backed up on multiple drives. If they want my books they will have to pry them from my cold dead hands.
Apache

Well, they'll have to pry my ebooks from my warm hard drive.

Hmm, maybe I shouldn't give them ideas....

[jocampo]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Calibre itself takes no active role in the liberation (or identity cleansing) of ebooks.

The plugin does, but was asking about ebook metadata. For instance, Amazon mp3 files, come with a tag for it ...

[elemenoP]

Originally Posted by Zzyzx

Yes. What makes you think we're not allowed? Amazon.com sells an international Kindle to Norwegian customers, even with whispernet access. An extensive library of e-books is available to us.

This is why I always run my newly bought e-books through Calibre and a few select add-ons. I could of course go completely pirate but I think authors deserve at least some money for their books. Funny thing is, if I want to pay for books, Amazon provides the path of least resistance for us Norwegians.

If Amazon tries to pull similar crap with me, I will probably try to get help from Norwegian consumer authorities. The same guys that made Apple drop DRM in iTunes a few years ago.

Because when a US publisher buys the right to publish a book, they might only have the right to sell it "in the US." Other publishers bought the rights to sell that book in other countries. I honestly have no idea how Amazon works in other countries, that's why I ask. When you log in to Amazon.com (is that what you do?), you can see all the books, or only the ones available to you?

eP

[taustin]

Originally Posted by Barty

Well, they'll have to pry my ebooks from my warm hard drive.

Hmm, maybe I shouldn't give them ideas....

Believe me, some authors have had that idea for many years. I recall on who used to post to rec.arts.sf.written, on usenet, that he, personally, should have the right and ability to rifle through any computer, anywhere, at any time, looking for pirated copies of his books. And that the appropriate punishment for copyright infringement is to be gang raped in prison. He was entirely serious.

(Oddly, he doesn't post there any more. Go figure.)

[Barty]

Originally Posted by Namekuseijin

oh good, one more reason for a merry DRM-free Caliber library. I feel a bit sorry for these kind of ignorant consumers, but not much: ignorance must be punished.

People who do not know about extra legal tools must be punished?

(I call the tools extra legal because, for one thing, we are not allowed to link to them here.)

We are not talking about failing to secure your wifi, or clicking on spam link.

I don't read many stories in the mainstream media about stripping DRM to protect stuff you buy legitimately from supposedly legitimate companies.