New iPhone (5) Reviews Thread

[murraypaul]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

A retna display will look better yes. But a retna display is just pixel doubling. It does not give you the use of all those extra pixels.

I have no idea what you mean.
The new iPad allows you to get more readable text on screen at once than the old iPad. In what way does that not give you use of more pixels?
Have you actually used both?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by murraypaul

I have no idea what you mean.
The new iPad allows you to get more readable text on screen at once than the old iPad. In what way does that not give you use of more pixels?
Have you actually used both?

I have an iPad and my wife as the New iPad. I also had an iPhone 3G and I now have an iPhone 5. So to answer your question, yes I have.

[heySkippy]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

If it's an Apple laptop, then it doesn't actually count because a retna display does not actually use the extra pixels for more on screen. My 1600x1200 monitor on my Windows computer uses the pixels as pixels. It does not use it as an 800x600 display with pixel doubling.

For example, a New iPad get no more content on screen then an iPad.

You are right about the iPad, but wrong about the laptop. I can, if I choose, set my display to not double pixels. I actually tried it once. It makes everything crazy small, but not impossible to use. As a practical matter I will almost never use it that way because the benefits of doubled pixels far far outweigh having more stuff on the screen.

And as others point out, doubled pixels mean you can read much smaller text and see much finer detail. It's tough to go back once you're used to it.

[afv011]

Originally Posted by heySkippy

As a practical matter I will almost never use it that way because the benefits of doubled pixels far far outweigh having more stuff on the screen.

Depends on what you work on. My desktop monitor is 2560x1440 and I have no doubling shenanigans going on, and I couldn't use anything smaller. For my line of work, having lots of real state (true real state, if you start double pixeling you lose it) is a must.

[heySkippy]

Doubling shenanigans? Are you saying sharper isn't better?

If I needed a larger display, I wouldn't be using a 15" laptop or I would plug in an external monitor.

[tompe]

Originally Posted by heySkippy

Doubling shenanigans? Are you saying sharper isn't better?

Well, it must depend on your eyes. If your eyes cannot read very small letters it does not matter how sharp they are.

[SeaKing]

Originally Posted by afv011

Depends on what you work on. My desktop monitor is 2560x1440 and I have no doubling shenanigans going on, and I couldn't use anything smaller. For my line of work, having lots of real state (true real state, if you start double pixeling you lose it) is a must.

That interesting.

If I understand what you are talking about, we in the US would say "real estate."

[JSWolf]

Apple should be doing 2880x1900 on a 17.3" screen without the doubling which wastes have the pixels. Otherwise, you pay extra for a resolution you cannot effectively use.

[afv011]

Originally Posted by SeaKing

That interesting.

If I understand what you are talking about, we in the US would say "real estate."

Ah, yes, my bad... That's what I meant, "estate".

[heySkippy]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Apple should be doing 2880x1900 on a 17.3" screen without the doubling which wastes have the pixels. Otherwise, you pay extra for a resolution you cannot effectively use.

The retina screen on the 15" MBP is simply beautiful. Everything from text to photographs just looks better. I actually dislike using my wife's iMac now because I can see the pixels in text.

Saying all those extra pixels are wasted is just silly. They're available to be a larger desktop any time I want. Fact is, the vast majority of the time I would prefer to have ultra-crisp text and graphics in a desktop size that's appropriate for the size of the screen.