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View Poll Results: Do you like sex/love scenes in the stories you read?
No nookie for me. I don't want to go there. 36 12.29%
Love scenes are fine if they contribute to characterization and plot. 165 56.31%
I really enjoy sexuality in fiction. 46 15.70%
Some sex is OK but only in small doses. 38 12.97%
Love scenes are why I read! 8 2.73%
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:38 PM   #136
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SF Writers aren't very good at sex. . .

Some writers can't write battle scenes, others can't write effectively about sex or political intrigue, I've found SF writers, as a group to be less than adequate when it comes to sexual activity (on paper, at least. I'm still waiting for that super hot female SF Writer with both poor eyesight and poor judgement to come along - If she could do stand up comedy as well, she'd be perfect).

It's really about each writer and their individual skills.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:38 PM   #137
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Some writers can't write battle scenes, others can't write effectively about sex or political intrigue, I've found SF writers, as a group to be less than adequate when it comes to sexual activity (on paper, at least. I'm still waiting for that super hot female SF Writer with both poor eyesight and poor judgement to come along - If she could do stand up comedy as well, she'd be perfect).

It's really about each writer and their individual skills.
Only if she owned a brewery as well.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:50 PM   #138
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I'm not squeemish about it or anything, but I don't think it's something that is described that well in words. It usually sounds awkward or silly. I don't mind some, but I would probably get bored with lots. Writen sex scenes don't seem very sexy to me at all.
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:18 AM   #139
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It depends on the story, who the characters are, how graphic it is etc. In some books I can't stand it but in others I like it.
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Old 10-14-2012, 11:40 AM   #140
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In thinking about it, I find that I don't have any particular feelings for sex scenes. I'm guided much more by the overall writing.

If I'm liking the writer's voice, I'm perfectly happy with sex scenes. When I read, I'm trusting the writer to take me through a story. If they feel they need to take me into the character's sex life, fine, I'll give them some rope (no BDSM pun intended).

If I'm not liking the writer, I've stopped reading long before I hit a sex scene. Bad writing is a turn-off regardless of whether it's about sex.
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Old 10-14-2012, 12:35 PM   #141
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I listen to a lot of audio books, and I find (oddly) that I can read sex scenes easier than I can listen to them. The only ones that I don't feel uncomfortable listening to are Nora Roberts/JD Robb... because those are more about the emotional arc than they are tab A into slot B.
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Old 10-14-2012, 12:49 PM   #142
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more about the emotional arc than they are tab A into slot B.
Agreed. Written erotica is for subtler cases than IKEA-porn. The more important the mindset is, the better. This is why BDSM is well served with text.
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Old 10-14-2012, 01:07 PM   #143
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IKEA-porn
LOL - I've not heard that expression before. Is that the same as PWP (porn-without-plot)?

When I realize there's almost more sex than pages turned, at that point I tend to skip the sex and see if there's actually a plotline to follow. As a rule I'll read it.

Have to agree though I can do without in audio format.
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Old 10-14-2012, 02:14 PM   #144
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Not sure. There's good sex possible without a poor plot added. Ikea-porn means in addition to plotless 'simple as possible' just like these manuals are meant to be.
Think: the dumbest non-imaginative way of having sex; mount, dump, umount
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Old 10-14-2012, 02:25 PM   #145
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LOL - I've not heard that expression before. Is that the same as PWP (porn-without-plot)?
No it's the boring he put his ____ in her ____ and so on. Technical descriptions of sex without anything erotic, like reading an IKEA manual on how to have sex.

There is of course a TVTropes page on it, it even has a picture (completely save for work, but it will ruin your live )
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The paradox is that fetishes are boring in the conventional sense but can also open doors to other kinds of form when the artist is imaginative. There's a rigor that seems completely arbitrary to people, but I find the arbitrariness interesting and amusing.

It's the sort of thing that makes Henry Darger and A.G. Rizzoli fun and Hans Bellmer and Unica Zürn interesting.

And then there's the whole issue of coded sexuality, which often makes the texture of the writing interesting in other ways (Proust, Stein, Roussel, Ashbery).
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