10-14-2012, 04:46 PM | #166 |
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I suggest you ask Kindle CS; they're the ones who can give you a definitive answer. All that anyone else can do is speculate.
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Thank you. I wish this and a couple of elf's posts could be stickied for easy linkage. TBH, it ruffles my feathers to be told I should be ashamed for sending, e.g., my mother a copy of an ebook (but it's cool for a pbook) because of such technicalities. We are ethical people, and several times have bought "our own" copies when the books have been good enough to be keepers, same for library or kindle lending books we really liked. Add to that, the related argument that it's wrong to do A because it opens the door for you to do B is also annoying. Heck, if it were, then borrowing Amazon lendable books would be unethical, since you could strip and keep them. For that matter, if we're going to be technical, we shouldn't even buy Amazon books, because we could strip them, which is against the licence, and we could pass them around to thousands, intentionally or unintentionally. |
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Stealing from someone is something I couldn't do and,sleep well at night. I've driven back to stores to pay for things that got through (usually toddlers with candy, once a pair of sunglasses I walked out with on my head. Drove 25 miles back, while on a long road trip to return those. ) It just bugs me to see things get stretched so far that honest people are lumped in with pirates. I don't think it's fair or will get good results for sellers, just as overly suspicious or strict parenting tends to backfire. Quote:
*I started out using that method with my mother, sis, friend, but after awhile, i just used email for simplicity. |
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I was trying to refer to the segment of the population whose income is in the range of $70,000 - $200,000 a year. This could include, most professionals, many tradespeople, successful salespeople, many service professionals such as servers, bartenders and taxi drivers, union truck drivers, and busdrivers among many others. As well as their dependents. MAybe students and non-working housewives out number them, maybe not. I have never seen a plumber with an ebook reader that I am aware of, but I am sure they exist. I have seen many travelling people such as consultants, salespeople, and even truckdrivers pull out an ebook reader at breakfast. Still maybe you are correct and the biggest market is students and housewives. Perhaps the are as a group, spending megabucks on ebooks. I would think that distractions such as studying and keeping keeping control of the children might slow them down a bit but who knows for sure. Helen |
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I wonder how many of the downloads that are called Piracy and lost sales are from people who have already bought the paper book. They have payed the author by their purchase. Now want the book in ebook format. They might be using the pirate site download as their way to format shift.
I also wonder how many are from people who would buy the book if it was not geo restricted? |
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At one point, Amazon claimed it was a EULA violation for libraries to loan out Kindles; at some later point, they backed off from that (possibly because there is no difference in the EULA terms between "loan out this Kindle to random library patrons" and "hand this Kindle to my husband"). They've never clarified what they think is acceptable. I believe they don't want to--they want the terms to be contradictory, so they can cut people off with no warning if they feel like it, but can encourage people to share a little bit because they know if they insisted on and tried to enforce "you can NEVER share this book with anyone, at all, not even in your own household"--sales would plummet. So instead, they tacitly allow limited sharing (multiple people on an account), while the EULA clearly says that's not permitted. |
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Also, with the introduction of "parental controls", this brings the "personal use" into further question, since they are admitting that the accounts/devices are designed to be shared with others.
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Oh, silly American copyright! In the German equivalent of coyright, Urheberrecht, there is the right to a Privatkopie, private copy, which has been defined over the years to include all personal backups and up to 7 copies of a work shared with close family and friends, whether in the same household or not. For this purpose, it is even perfectly legal to break any DRM (§108b UrhG).
Germans copyright critics keep complaining they don't have fair use, but in this case, fair use seems just plain dumb complained to the practical Privatkopie. |
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10-17-2012, 05:27 AM | #179 | |
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German books and ebooks are actually more expensive because of the fixed book prices law. Which means book sellers cannot compete via lowering book prices, yet another stupid anti-competetive law. |
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I assure you that a major percentage of commercial media companies don't believe that "non-business" use is the same as "personal" use. |
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