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Old 10-08-2012, 06:52 PM   #16
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The issue is possibly contractors.

Contractors add notes (so they should).
<project>Managers don't remove them.
QA don't even notice them.
We read them.

I note the general LACK of 5.2.0 source code on offer.
perhaps they are giving it the once over this time
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:02 PM   #17
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These are the address ranges to be blocked out-bound, as of early 2012:

Code:
CIDR:           23.0.0.0/12
CIDR:           50.16.0.0/14      (the log collector)
CIDR:           72.21.192.0/19
CIDR:           107.20.0.0/14
CIDR:           184.72.0.0/15
CIDR:           204.246.160.0/19
CIDR:           205.251.192.0/18
CIDR:           207.171.160.0/19
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my iptables Fu is weak today... but I will have a quick play.


THE RANGES CONVERTED TO HUMAN
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23.0.0.0/12 = 23.0.0.1 - 23.15.255.254

50.16.0.0/14 = 50.16.0.1 - 56.19.255.254

72.21.192.0/19 = 72.21.192.1 - 72.21.223.254

107.20.0.0/14 = 107.20.0.1 - 107.23.255.254

184.72.0.0/15 = 184.72.1 - 184.75.255.254

204.246.160.0/19 = 204.246.160.1 - 204.246.191.254

205.251.192.0/18 = 205.251.192.1 - 205.251.255.254

207.171.160.0/19 = 207.171.160.1 - 207.171.191.254

heck that's a lot of IP's
now... ranges.. let me go read some things... IIRC they weren't supported.

Nope.. I'm wrong:

WHY I'M WRONG
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However newer version does support option that allows you to specify a range of IP addresses or ports for regular tables such as input.

Iptables set range of IP addresses

You need to use following options with match extensions (-m Ext).

iprange : This matches on a given arbitrary range of IPv4 addresses.

[!]--src-range ip-ip: Match source IP in the specified range.
[!]--dst-range ip-ip: Match destination IP in the specified range.
Syntax:

-m iprange --src-range IP-IP -j ACTION
-m iprange --dst-range IP-IP -j ACTION

For example, allow incoming request on a port 22 for source IP in the 192.168.1.100-192.168.1.200 range only. You need to add something as follows to your iptables script:

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 22 -m iprange --src-range 192.168.1.100-192.168.1.200 -j ACCEPT



hmm.. let's see if we support that.

iptables -I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 23.0.0.1-23.15.255.254 -j DROP


Quote:
Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source destination
DROP all -- anywhere anywhere destination IP range 23.0.0.1-23.15.255.254
ACCEPT all -- anywhere localhost.localdomain
NOTE: The order is important in this case I think. first match wins IIRC, so -I is important in the OUTPUT DROP ruleset. pre-pending the general ACCEPT all.

So yup looks like that would be a working solution if extrapolated from my single worked example and KNC1's list.

HTH

EDIT:

HOWEVER ON A 3 THIS GIVES:

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[root@kindle fonts]# iptables -I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 23.0.0.1-23.15.255.254 -j DROP
iptables v1.3.8: Couldn't load match `iprange':/usr/lib/iptables/libipt_iprange.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.
So. err.. I was half right works on a 5. not on the older devices.

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my iptables Fu is weak today... but I will have a quick play.



heck that's a lot of IP's
now... ranges.. let me go read some things... IIRC they weren't supported.

Nope.. I'm wrong:




hmm.. let's see if we support that.

iptables -I OUTPUT -p tcp -m iprange --src-range 23.0.0.1-23.15.255.254 -j DROP



NOTE: The order is important in this case I think. first match wins IIRC, so -I is important in the OUTPUT DROP ruleset. pre-pending the general ACCEPT all.

So yup looks like that would be a working solution if extrapolated from my single worked example and KNC1's list.

HTH
Suggestion: Remove the protocol qualification from the rule.
Fix: That should be "--dst-range" addresses to block on output, not the source addresses.

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EDIT:

With full listing of commands for 5 as penance.

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iptables -I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 23.0.0.1-23.15.255.254 -j DROP

iptables -I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 50.16.0.1-56.19.255.254 -j DROP

iptables -I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 72.21.192.1-72.21.223.254 -j DROP

iptables -I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 107.20.0.1-107.23.255.254 -j DROP

iptables -I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 184.72.1-184.75.255.254 -j DROP

iptables -I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 204.246.160.1-204.246.191.254 -j DROP

iptables -I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 205.251.192.1-205.251.255.254 -j DROP

iptables -I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 207.171.160.1-207.171.191.254 -j DROP
[root@kindle root]# iptables -L

snip
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Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source destination
DROP all -- anywhere anywhere destination IP range 207.171.160.1-207.171.191.254
DROP all -- anywhere anywhere destination IP range 205.251.192.1-205.251.255.254
DROP all -- anywhere anywhere destination IP range 204.246.160.1-204.246.191.254
DROP all -- anywhere anywhere destination IP range 184.72.1.0-184.75.255.254
DROP all -- anywhere anywhere destination IP range 107.20.0.1-107.23.255.254
DROP all -- anywhere anywhere destination IP range 72.21.192.1-72.21.223.254
DROP all -- anywhere anywhere destination IP range 50.16.0.1-56.19.255.254
DROP all -- anywhere anywhere destination IP range 23.0.0.1-23.15.255.254
ACCEPT all -- anywhere localhost.localdomain
this would live in /etc/sysconfig/iptables to be made permanent.

Like:
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*filter
:INPUT DROP [0:0]
:FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0]
:OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0]

# Drop Amazon bits and bats
-I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 23.0.0.1-23.15.255.254 -j DROP
-I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 50.16.0.1-56.19.255.254 -j DROP
-I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 72.21.192.1-72.21.223.254 -j DROP
-I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 107.20.0.1-107.23.255.254 -j DROP
-I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 184.72.1-184.75.255.254 -j DROP
-I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 204.246.160.1-204.246.191.254 -j DROP
-I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 205.251.192.1-205.251.255.254 -j DROP
-I OUTPUT -m iprange --dst-range 207.171.160.1-207.171.191.254 -j DROP

REST OF FILE ELIDED
EDIT EDIT:

Did a shutdown -r now to test it all works fine. it does. I can sleep easy
Goodnight

Obviously, this will bust the store amongst other things

It's a LONG less than a minute
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You want to block the "reserved purpose" ips in each range also, as in:
23.0.0.0-23.15.255.255
But the above entry, I can not find why I included it in my notes, it may have been a UK only something.

But, back on topic, For instance:
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NetRange:       50.16.0.0 - 50.19.255.255
CIDR:           50.16.0.0/14
OriginAS:       
NetName:        AMAZON-EC2-8
NetHandle:      NET-50-16-0-0-1
Parent:         NET-50-0-0-0-0
NetType:        Direct Assignment
The tool twobob used to convert CIDR must have been "protecting" the top and bottom two "special purpose" IP addresses of each range.
I am going to walk out onto the thinest of the ice and say those are the: "broadcast" and "anycast" addresses for each range.

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Okay! I've updated and simplified my instructions using that input; thanks for the IP ranges.
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Okay! I've updated and simplified my instructions using that input; thanks for the IP ranges.
Those ranges have been posted for eight months, with never a report that they where incomplete.

The reasoning behind the use of ranges is based on the practical aspects of implementing an IPv4 network in these days of limited address block availability.

Other methods, such as:
Diverting by domain name (/etc/hosts or other means) ;
Blocking by specific IP address (iptables or other means) ;
can not be considered "stable" when dealing with a network owner that owns large address blocks.

Either or both the domain name or the IP address at the service edge of the network can be changed in minutes of time and will propagate within hours.

The blocks are large enough that end-users would be forever playing catch-up with the changes when using those specific blocking methods.

But with the shortage of IPv4 address blocks, it is both very time consuming and expensive to acquire a 'new' block of addresses.
Translation: Not likely to happen.

My original thread mentioned it was Part 1 of 2 parts - - -
But I never posted the Part 2.
Research showed that it was not required.

The Kindle hardware and software **could** use IPv6 addresses ;
Amazon does have their network accessible via IPv6 ;
But they have contracted with A.T.T. to provide their connectivity,
and A.T.T. currently only has one IPv6 backbone.

Their 2G, 3G, and 4G offerings are not IPv6 capable, the protocols do not (yet) support IPv6.
Their Wifi network is currently on life-support in an attempt to recover their existing equipment costs.
They aren't likely to shift that black hole of corporate funds onto their limited IPv6 facilities.

Translation: The Kindles are not going to be switched to IPv6 any time soon. At least not until some carrier offers Amazon a deal on "universal IPv6" access. Which is not likely to happen until all cell phone service is running on IPv6.

Hence, no "Part 2".

Could even "range blocking" deal with an IPv6 data mining operation?
Not likely.

There are so many IPv6 address blocks possible that carriers are giving away /64 blocks - not selling, giving.
Even I, sitting here in my home workroom have a /64 block of private addresses (left over from last February's research) assigned.
Since the IPv6 address scheme is 2^128 addressing, that gives me 2^64 public, IPv6 addresses.
Not even GM has that much network equipment in his home!

How big a number is that in terms of the Kindle product?
Fun with math:
The Kindles use a 16 character serial number, the first four characters indicate the product number, the other 12 characters are base 10 digits to specify the unit.
So Amazon has 10^12 serial numbers available for each product number ...
In en_Computer, that is a bit less than 2^40 serial numbers.
That single (free) /64 IPv6 assignment could be used to assign a unique IPv6 address to:
64 - 40 == 24
Every possible Kindle for each of 2^24 different Kindle products.
Amazon doesn't have 2^24 different Kindle products and not even in their wildest dreams have they used up all the 2^40 possible serial numbers for any one model.

But if they have plans to produce that many Kindles -
My carrier will give me another /64 block (for free) if I check the check-box on the account page.

Those are big numbers, even in their (current) smallest assignment size (/64).

PS: Yes, all twelve of my domains are on both IPv4 and IPv6.
I.E: KnetConnect.com can assign a personal, public IPv6 address to every possible Kindle there might ever be in the world. (So could you if you asked the right carrier nicely.)

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@ixtab, twobob: Is that enough reference material?
@geekmaster: If your running short of IPv6 addresses, I think I can hook you up with a carrier that will assign you a /48 (I.E: 2^16, /64 address blocks).
Which might be useful if you want to assign a public IPv6 address to every pixel on your e-ink wall.
(I get dibs on that lower right corner pixel! Send me its link address.)

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@geekmaster: If your running short of IPv6 addresses, I think I can hook you up with a carrier that will assign you a /48 (I.E: 2^16, /64 address blocks).
Which might be useful if you want to assign a public IPv6 address to every pixel on your e-ink wall.
(I get dibs on that lower right corner pixel! Send me its link address.)
213.225.312.5:31337

I still use IPv4 addresses. Class B blocks are getting a bit expensive.

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Hi all!

I have Paperwhite which is not registered and want to use this fake registration. But I'm totally new to Kindles (Paperwhite is my first one), so could you please provide some clarifications?

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2. Enable USB networking and set your SSH password
How to enable USB networking (my Kindle is jailbroken)? Do I need to install special update for that (where to get it)?

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6. Push this to your device over scp. The destination directory is /var/local/java/prefs/
As I understood, it can be done on Linux only? What about Windows?

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TBH. I am not happy to support this. Perhaps other will.
The motivations around the entire subject seem ill-advised.

That is just my opinion - feel free to throw rocks -
and Yes, it can be done with just a few basic tools. from any OS. (more or less)

It's just editing and networking. If you REALLY REALLY need to do it then it can be done.
This will be the last time I comment on this thread.

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To unlock all of your Kindle's functionality you either have to register (and grant them access to juicy analytics)
what does that mean "juicy analytics" ?
what is the point in not registering the device ? beside if it's a stolen device or blocking updates, I don't see.
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Originally Posted by Jesse83 View Post
what does that mean "juicy analytics" ?
what is the point in not registering the device ? beside if it's a stolen device or blocking updates, I don't see.
You can prevent any data mining or other analytics of your device usage without blocking registration.

You can prevent having updates forced on you without blocking registration.

If the device has been reported stolen to Amazon, Amazon has already blocked the device registration.
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