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Companies will stop making games for entertainment, they'll go back to making software that businesses can use commercially so they can charge for it. Will movie companies still make movies if they can only sell them to cinemas which are struggling? imho copyright is essential, however with reasonable time spans which I think the current continued extensions and creep is anything but. To pick an arbitrary number, make it 50 years fixed, no relation to whether you've died or not. That means if you make a single product when you're 20, you can live off it until you're 70 assuming it's popular. Make something just before you retire and you're set for life. After you die, any remaining years of that 50 years should be passed onto whoever gets your inheritance. The actual value of 50 is arbitrary and could be argued about for some time, but the main point is we should imo get away from life + X. Last edited by JoeD; 10-08-2012 at 12:11 PM. |
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funny little anecdote about piracy countermeasures. Bought this lovely piano piece score yesterday:
http://store.michelemclaughlin.com/I...%28PDF_Song%29 once the transaction is over you get a download link for a "personalized" PDF file. It comes with your name (via credit card info) on all pages. I thought it clever. sure, a convict pirate would remove it all in a blink of an eye, but it's much too strong a desire to share with other people something you legally bought in detriment of the artist. |
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10-08-2012, 05:11 PM | #109 | |
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10-08-2012, 06:32 PM | #110 | |
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10-08-2012, 06:57 PM | #111 | |
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This sort of scheme would allow works that are still commercially viable to continue to make money for the family and the estate, as long as they renew. If they don't renew, the work goes into public domain. I think this is a compromise among competing interests. House of Mouse gets to keep its copyrights, but lots more works will fall into public domain more quickly. |
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Not all that many, really. Some you pay for via advertising (for example, the "free" versions of the Angry Birds games), many others you pay for by giving up your personal information, allowing your location to be tracked, etc., etc... There are very, very few that are truly free, that you aren't paying for in some manner other (usually more exploitive) than cash.
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10-09-2012, 05:35 AM | #113 | |
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There are many models based on no direct payment such as ad-supported TV or micro-transaction supported games. Many very large MMO games are now free to play but you can buy special items and perks. These games are doing well in general and we will see more of them. |
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10-09-2012, 12:07 PM | #114 | |
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Whilst we do get totally free software, in most cases also released as open source, it's a huge leap to assume without copyright we'd still enjoy the same levels of entertainment. We may get the odd free fan film/indie film, but we wouldn't get any more traditional movies imo. Unless financing and profit could occur prior to the movies release. Same with books, we get free books, but they're often as a means to market further books from the author. |
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Whilst I wouldn't go as far as saying it'd destroy all forms of entertainment (business often finds a way even if the players have to change for that to happen), I do believe it would be a seismic shift in the way entertainment is made/distributed and consumed. Could we live without copyright, I imagine so. Would we want to, I'm not sure that's really possible to answer. Quote:
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10-10-2012, 08:31 AM | #116 | |
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If copyright was abolished, we could have the richness of adaptions we see with great PD characters and authors like Sherlock Holmes and Shakespeare for everything without having to wait a hundred years. People could even sell their fanfiction (without superficially changing character's names and pretending their work is not actually fanfiction whatsoever, that is ). Dōjinshi are already being sold at conventions in Japan and the sky has not fallen there, either. |
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There'd be no need for payments directly to the musicians and for anyone using amazon's service there may be no indirect payments. Granted, Amazon may still reimburse musicians, but they'd be under no legal obligation to do so and if Amazon did, it'd push up the cost of their service leaving a competitor free to charge for bandwidth costs only and not pay royalties. Some may still go with Amazon or whoever does pay royalties knowing it's the only way to keep new music coming, but I would assume most will go with the cheaper service all other things been equal in terms of service quality. I agree with you that some people will still realise that musicians/authors won't likely continue to create unless they make enough to live off, but if you're getting all your films from a netflix like service with no monthly subscription and the movie makers are getting nothing from the people watching it via that service, would they continue to make films? Perhaps they could find alternative sources of income or rely on the cinema fees, but then, cinemas wouldn't have to pay to screen the film if they can get their hands on a copy. One cinema buys access to the film and could then give it away or sell it onto others for next to nothing or an employee runs off a copy and passes it on (things that currently happen occasionally now despite been illegal, but there'd be no stopping it if it wasn't illegal). How much do people pay to download the free ebooks from the mobile read library, or pay to use the free mobile read forum? Does that money go to cover hosting/bandwidth costs or to the people who maintain the free library? If copyright didn't exist, would any of it go the original authors who's out of copyright books we're making use of? When everyone can offer all books/music/movies for free, will enough people still pay for the stuff they can get for free? I'm sure some will donate to free sites now and then as they can see the value they're getting from it, but imo they're a minority and likely not enough to sustain an entire group of industries. I'd also expect in most cases that the donations would go to the people running the site or hosting costs and not to the people who's out of copyright content is been used. Granted it'd be difficult in the current situation to pay the creators when copyright is life + X so my assertion is nothing more than a guess, I could be wrong Quote:
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Ending the commercial threat of piracy (as opposed to "ending piracy," which isn't possible) won't occur by punishing or preventing unauthorized filesharing; it can only be mitigated by convincing people to buy, and that's an entirely different approach to the problem. |
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If they are given the choice between pay up or stop using the software some may pay some may use something else but, even if none of them pay, you are losing no business. |
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