KPW: annoyances, minor and major - Page 3

lindnet · 10-07-2012, 09:48 PM

If the book has the chapter designations formatted (or whatever you call it), you can tap on the chapter number and it brings up a list of the chapters for you to choose from. Of course that only works when you're at the beginning of a chapter; not sure it's any better than using Go To....

Zimmy · 10-07-2012, 10:14 PM

I love my PW but my annoyances would be:

No chapter swipes.

And the complete removal of google search.
I'm pretty sure it was missing on the Touch but was added later, you could select a word or a phrase and then search Google.

No longer with the PW, it's Wikipedia or nothing.

ElMiko · 10-07-2012, 10:18 PM

Personally, I'm glad there are no chapter swipes. Navigating through the Go To drpdown is fine by me. Besides which, it's nice to know that the only accidental swipes i'm gong to effect are single page turns.

sparklemotion · 10-07-2012, 10:26 PM

I feel the same about chapter swipes, ElMiko. It's a feature I personally won't miss because I like to swipe the screen to clear a speck of dust sometimes and it's nice to be able to do that without having it forward a chapter like on my touch. I can understand some people being upset it's gone though. It's a shame they don't give you the option to turn it on or off.

ElMiko · 10-07-2012, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sparklemotion

It's a feature I personally won't miss because I like to swipe the screen to clear a speck of dust sometimes and it's nice to be able to do that without having it forward a chapter like on my touch.

YES! +1 on that point. I also agree that it would be nice if amazon allowed for greater flexibility... unfortunately it looks like they're taking a page from the Apple book: it's their way or the highway. For my part, I'm still irked that you can't specify search fields. Or that you can't decide for yourself which progress data shows in the lower lefthand corner (i would definitely swap out the Location # for a Page #, either "real" or in terms of screens).

tomsem · 10-08-2012, 01:26 AM

I would like chapter swipe back. It is kind of baffling that they removed it (even though it didn't work with all books).

With KPW you can wipe stuff off the screen without doing anything if you use a soft cloth (like one used to clean eyeglasses), because capacitative touch doesn't respond to most materials.

Psykhe · 10-08-2012, 03:04 AM

Also, not all books have chapters...

Blossom · 10-08-2012, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Psykhe

Also, not all books have chapters...

All mine do. Chapter Navigation is something I add to all books. I miss it on the Fire.

Skydog · 10-08-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Blossom

All mine do. Chapter Navigation is something I add to all books. I miss it on the Fire.

Perhaps all your books do but the fact remains that not all books contain chapters.

Strether · 10-08-2012, 12:07 PM

I raised the issue in the Kindle Help Forum about the lack of ability to jump from chapter to chapter via a swipe, as we had on the Kindle Touch, and was told it was discontinued because they had so many complaints about it from smart phone users who used a similar swipe to turn pages. I did suggest that they give us an alternative way of maneuvering through a book, and got a response back that my suggestion had been submitted to their engineers, but who knows if anything will come of that.

Jim

sparklemotion · 10-08-2012, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomsem

With KPW you can wipe stuff off the screen without doing anything if you use a soft cloth (like one used to clean eyeglasses), because capacitative touch doesn't respond to most materials.

Oh good point! I hadn't thought of that.

tomsem · 10-08-2012, 12:57 PM

Interestingly Kindle subscriptions still respond to swipe up/down. I checked the PW user's guide, and it makes no mention of chapter navigation via swipe up/down (Kindle Touch user's manual does). This seems like another case of Amazon deciding that because a feature doesn't work with every book, they need to remove it altogether lest they get support calls about it not working. Just like justification toggle. Sigh.

PDF seems pretty broken. They open fine but after a few pages (or seconds?), I get a 'Low memory' error, and after dismissing the error, PDF closes and you're back to Home screen. It doesn't seem to matter much how big the PDF is. I have 1GB free storage. I think I was able to view one without it doing this but now they all seem to do it.

Update: I did a Restart, and can read PDFs again. So it seems there are some memory leaks in the firmware. I think this is the first Restart I've done since getting it.

AnemicOak · 10-08-2012, 10:46 PM

I'm finding two things annoying at the moment.

I'm getting a bit of an 'under glass' effect when reading in certain lighting (especially at work) where I can tell that I'm looking through a layer or two on top of the eInk. Sometimes I'm more sensitive to it than others, but I find myself getting distracted by it while reading sometimes.

Another thing I can't seem to get used to so far are the fonts on the PW. The sizes are 'off' when compared to my Touch and K3 where I had settled into a perfect size and the PW is either too small or too large and I can't seem to settle in when combined with line spacing that's a bit different too. I'm sure I could get used to a new 'perfect setting' given some time, just not sure I want to. I wish we weren't limited to specific sizes instead of a slider for font size on these devices.

The light isn't as big a deal for me as it is for some so I'm not sure, I might just go back to my Touch or K3 and save my $140 for another day.

Heifzilla · 10-10-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by vxf

The touch screen change is a step back (infrared at least didn't pick up so many fingerprints).

My PW screen doesn't show fingerprints. Now the bezel on the other hand...

Heifzilla · 10-10-2012, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Another thing I can't seem to get used to so far are the fonts on the PW. The sizes are 'off' when compared to my Touch and K3 where I had settled into a perfect size and the PW is either too small or too large and I can't seem to settle in when combined with line spacing that's a bit different too. I'm sure I could get used to a new 'perfect setting' given some time, just not sure I want to. I wish we weren't limited to specific sizes instead of a slider for font size on these devices.

This is a minor annoyance for me as well.

10-07-2012, 10:18 PM	#33
ElMiko Addict Posts: 286 Karma: 56788 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kindle	Personally, I'm glad there are no chapter swipes. Navigating through the Go To drpdown is fine by me. Besides which, it's nice to know that the only accidental swipes i'm gong to effect are single page turns. __________________ When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if you've paid your dues, well, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail."

10-08-2012, 12:57 PM	#42
tomsem Wizard Posts: 2,042 Karma: 1889878 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPod Touch, Nook STR, Xoom, Kindle Touch, PW & Fire, Sony PRS-T1, iPad	Interestingly Kindle subscriptions still respond to swipe up/down. I checked the PW user's guide, and it makes no mention of chapter navigation via swipe up/down (Kindle Touch user's manual does). This seems like another case of Amazon deciding that because a feature doesn't work with every book, they need to remove it altogether lest they get support calls about it not working. Just like justification toggle. Sigh. PDF seems pretty broken. They open fine but after a few pages (or seconds?), I get a 'Low memory' error, and after dismissing the error, PDF closes and you're back to Home screen. It doesn't seem to matter much how big the PDF is. I have 1GB free storage. I think I was able to view one without it doing this but now they all seem to do it. Update: I did a Restart, and can read PDFs again. So it seems there are some memory leaks in the firmware. I think this is the first Restart I've done since getting it. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by tomsem; 10-08-2012 at 01:03 PM.

10-08-2012, 10:46 PM	#43
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 7,393 Karma: 18771935 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: AuraHD, Nook HD+, Kindle 2,3,T , Opus, TF101, Nexus7, iPT, iPhone5	I'm finding two things annoying at the moment. I'm getting a bit of an 'under glass' effect when reading in certain lighting (especially at work) where I can tell that I'm looking through a layer or two on top of the eInk. Sometimes I'm more sensitive to it than others, but I find myself getting distracted by it while reading sometimes. Another thing I can't seem to get used to so far are the fonts on the PW. The sizes are 'off' when compared to my Touch and K3 where I had settled into a perfect size and the PW is either too small or too large and I can't seem to settle in when combined with line spacing that's a bit different too. I'm sure I could get used to a new 'perfect setting' given some time, just not sure I want to. I wish we weren't limited to specific sizes instead of a slider for font size on these devices. The light isn't as big a deal for me as it is for some so I'm not sure, I might just go back to my Touch or K3 and save my $140 for another day. __________________ ~Brian "The test of any good fiction is that you should care something for the characters; the good to succeed, the bad to fail. The trouble with most fiction is that you want them all to land in hell together, as quickly as possible." — Mark Twain

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10-07-2012, 09:48 PM	#31
lindnet Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 495664 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Redding, CA Device: Kindle	If the book has the chapter designations formatted (or whatever you call it), you can tap on the chapter number and it brings up a list of the chapters for you to choose from. Of course that only works when you're at the beginning of a chapter; not sure it's any better than using Go To....

10-07-2012, 10:14 PM	#32
Zimmy Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 497996 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Kindle Touch	I love my PW but my annoyances would be: No chapter swipes. And the complete removal of google search. I'm pretty sure it was missing on the Touch but was added later, you could select a word or a phrase and then search Google. No longer with the PW, it's Wikipedia or nothing.

10-07-2012, 10:26 PM	#34
sparklemotion dangerous when cornered Posts: 961 Karma: 20198767 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: K3, K5, KFire, KPW	I feel the same about chapter swipes, ElMiko. It's a feature I personally won't miss because I like to swipe the screen to clear a speck of dust sometimes and it's nice to be able to do that without having it forward a chapter like on my touch. I can understand some people being upset it's gone though. It's a shame they don't give you the option to turn it on or off.

10-08-2012, 01:26 AM	#36
tomsem Wizard Posts: 2,042 Karma: 1889878 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPod Touch, Nook STR, Xoom, Kindle Touch, PW & Fire, Sony PRS-T1, iPad	I would like chapter swipe back. It is kind of baffling that they removed it (even though it didn't work with all books). With KPW you can wipe stuff off the screen without doing anything if you use a soft cloth (like one used to clean eyeglasses), because capacitative touch doesn't respond to most materials.

10-08-2012, 03:04 AM	#37
Psykhe Connoisseur Posts: 57 Karma: 210178 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kindle3	Also, not all books have chapters...

10-08-2012, 12:07 PM	#40
Strether Addict Posts: 343 Karma: 17889 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fresno Device: Kindle 1, 3, PW, Kindle 7" HD Fire	I raised the issue in the Kindle Help Forum about the lack of ability to jump from chapter to chapter via a swipe, as we had on the Kindle Touch, and was told it was discontinued because they had so many complaints about it from smart phone users who used a similar swipe to turn pages. I did suggest that they give us an alternative way of maneuvering through a book, and got a response back that my suggestion had been submitted to their engineers, but who knows if anything will come of that. Jim


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