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Old 10-07-2012, 09:58 AM   #1
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From the "We were just trying to learn stuff" department

If these "pirates" were only trying to distribute these textbooks instead of sell them, should they still be penalized or rewarded??

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10084 9:copyright-body-seizes-n1b-worth-of-pirated-books-&catid=1:national&Itemid=559
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:29 AM   #2
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If these "pirates" were only trying to distribute these textbooks instead of sell them, should they still be penalized or rewarded??

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10084 9:copyright-body-seizes-n1b-worth-of-pirated-books-&catid=1:national&Itemid=559
Why not... would you get upset if I just tried to redistribute your money or car or anything else you own rather than taking it to sell...
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Why not... would you get upset if I just tried to redistribute your money or car or anything else you own rather than taking it to sell...
That's silly. Giggleton doesn't own anything. Nobody does.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:24 PM   #4
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They deserve to be punished regardless of how they were trying to distribute the books. They made copies which they were not entitled to make and were trying to sell them.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:37 PM   #5
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I agree they should be punished, but my first thoughts were..."these are the biggest pirates they found?... in Nigeria?... and it took half the Nigerian government to catch them?"
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:01 PM   #6
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I agree they should be punished, but my first thoughts were..."these are the biggest pirates they found?... in Nigeria?... and it took half the Nigerian government to catch them?"
Keep in mind, a double digit percentage of the economy of Nigeria is apprently based on advance fee fraud. It's hard to imagine how the givernment was goaded in to pursuing any kind of monetary crime.

In the US, piracy on that scale is criminal, and regularly prosecuted.
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Yet another piracy thread ?
We have all across various threads, expressed our opinions and the conclusion is obviously that we must agree to disagree.
Come on people, this is getting old.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:31 PM   #8
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Yet another piracy thread ?
We have all across various threads, expressed our opinions and the conclusion is obviously that we must agree to disagree.
Come on people, this is getting old.
And old thing is not a dead thing. And old things means it subsists for a long time and, therefore, is worth something: respect the elder and debate piracy.
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:16 PM   #9
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They deserve to be punished regardless of how they were trying to distribute the books. They made copies which they were not entitled to make and were trying to sell them.
I don't have all the facts here, but perhaps they were simply trying to recoup the costs of copying these educational materials for their students by selling the copies??

Should someone be punished for distributing knowledge?
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:54 PM   #10
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Should someone be punished for distributing knowledge?
Copyright infringement isn't the same thing as distributing knowledge. We've been over that before. Please stop beating a dead horse.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:57 PM   #11
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Should someone be punished for distributing knowledge?
They were selling, not distributing. And the knowledge they were selling was the result of someone else's work. I can't imagine the twists and turns a mind has to go through to think that's okay.
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And just to head off the obvious response -- yes, they would be just as wrong to freely distribute someone else's work. Making a profit, or even just being reimbursed, isn't what makes it wrong.
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It doesn't matter what you distribute.
It matters to whom the fruits of labour (be it ideal or corporeal) belong.
Some people (and I think I 'll omit name-calling) can be really thankful for that.
Would it be the way around that punishment would depend on quality i.e. it would be fine to distribute somebody else's genial work but a crime to publicly expose utterly idiotic ideas...
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Been to Nigeria? Most people are very poor. Infant death is 1 in 10, in bad years. Half the population doesn't make $1000 a year. A person born there today, 2012, can expect to die at age 50. Statistics cannot convey life there to someone who has no acquaintance with such things.

Textbooks? The only thing that would lift most of the children out of a short, squalid life is a one-way ticket to somewhere else.

To use illegal textbooks in Nigeria to incite yet another Internet "discussion" on copyright is in questionable taste, IMHO; "callous" comes to mind. Nothing new for Nigerians; people have been ignoring or taking advantage of them for a long time.

Please pick some other headline to push your agenda.
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I second that partly.
1st, I think that granting the OP an educational trip to Nigeria would be mostly beneficial. If not for him then at least for the nerves of numerous other people. Preferably by one-way ticket.
A free trip aimed at getting more knowledge...
wouldn't that just be what he keeps demanding?
Knowledge for free?

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Please pick some other headline to push your agenda.
This here... Well, as soon as you change your statement into something beginning with: "Please pick some line" and ending with "push" I'll sign the petition.
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