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Old 10-02-2012, 10:44 AM   #1
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ePub instead of Kobo Format

I have seen a few posts recently where people are using ePubs instead of the Kobo format.

I can understand this if you are using other devices.

But, What benefit does using the regular ePub on a Kobo device give you as opposed to using the Kobo format?

Or is it just a personal preference?
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:01 AM   #2
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The big benefit to at least HAVING the ePub version available to you is the fact YOU have a copy of it, and are thus protected from (heaven forbid) Kobo going out of business and the infrastructure to download and sync kepub's ceases to exist.

Some folks also like the fact that they can "tweak" ePubs to remove their dislikes in formatting.

Also if you are a multiple Kobo family (for instance Taming here), all the readers are registered to the same account, and thus if both people read the same book, the Kobo syncing of reading location within an kePub would become annoying.
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:50 PM   #3
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People who buy books from multiple sources, not just from Kobo, also use ePubs--either with Adobe DRM or DRM free. My preference is to purchase from Kobo because I read on multiple devices and I really, really like sync. It seems to me that over time the prices at Kobo are pretty much the same as the prices from other book stores. Sometimes you can get a less expensive version from a a place like Amazon, or BOB, and if the difference is more than a dollar or two, I will buy there and read an ePUB. I think price equality may be different in some countries, but for Canadians, this seems true. The implementation of the DOJ lawsuit ruling could turn this upside down, as it is US only (hummm, that family summer house in upstate NY could come in handy)

I check prices using calibre, btw.

Although I prefer to read Kobo ePUBs, I always make a drm free backup for all of the reasons Peter gave. My husband and son read ePUBS so they don't screw up my sync. I read on multiple devices, as stated earlier and they do not.

There is a group of people who never buy books at all. Some of them use Overdirve to borrow library books, and they go onto the Kobo eInk devices as ADE DRM'd ePUBs. Some people get every book they have from torrent sites or other places where books under copyright are made available in ways that may violate the law. I am not giving any kind of opinion about this, just explaining that the Kobo devices are used for ePUBs (or PDFs) if people are getting books in this way.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:12 PM   #4
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-Reading public domain books: gutenberg offers books in epub format.
-Fanfic: archiveofourown.org also offers fic downloads as plain epubs
-Scanning my own physical books to make a backup copy: this is slow and tedious in the extreme, so I don't do it much, but I generally save such books as epubs unless the formatting is really complicated, in which case they get saved as ordinary pdfs.
-Research papers: usually pdf format.

Until the major publishers start selling books that I want without DRM, those four categories make up all of the books on my device. That's why I've never used kepubs.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:55 PM   #5
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Amazon can easily remove a book you bought from your Kindle and have done this. If you download books to off reader storage much harder to remove a book you have bought.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:34 PM   #6
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I have seen a few posts recently where people are using ePubs instead of the Kobo format.

I can understand this if you are using other devices.

But, What benefit does using the regular ePub on a Kobo device give you as opposed to using the Kobo format?

Or is it just a personal preference?
For me, it's personal preference. I do get books from elsewhere, but when I buy a book, I buy it from Kobo just because. And then instead of using their kepub, I download the epub and read that. The kepub books show their page numbers per chapter – and where that is useful to be able to know how many pages you have left until the end of the chapter, it really annoys me to have no clue how many pages I have left until the end of the book. Luckily, epub page numbers show as page per total.

So, I stick to epubs until kepubs give me the option to choose between pages per chapter or per book total...
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:01 AM   #7
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The kepub books show their page numbers per chapter – and where that is useful to be able to know how many pages you have left until the end of the chapter, it really annoys me to have no clue how many pages I have left until the end of the book. Luckily, epub page numbers show as page per total.
I don't find it useful at all to know how many pages left until the end of the chapter. It seems to me to be a crazy design idea and I would like to know if ANYONE likes it.
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Old 10-03-2012, 06:09 AM   #8
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I don't find it useful at all to know how many pages left until the end of the chapter. It seems to me to be a crazy design idea and I would like to know if ANYONE likes it.
I like to know how many pages to the end of the chapter, number of pages to end of the book I couldn't care less about

I usually have a couple of books on the go at a time, during the day I have the occasional half hour spare to read (i like to finish chapters when reading, not stop half way through a chapter)

So I read a chapter from the book I know I can finish within the time I have free

On an evening I don't really care about either, but I will finish the current chapter before putting the book down
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:27 AM   #9
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I don't find it useful at all to know how many pages left until the end of the chapter. It seems to me to be a crazy design idea and I would like to know if ANYONE likes it.
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I like to know how many pages to the end of the chapter, ...
Make that anyone +2.
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:34 AM   #10
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:52 AM   #11
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I don't find it useful at all to know how many pages left until the end of the chapter. It seems to me to be a crazy design idea and I would like to know if ANYONE likes it.
My sister loves it. She commutes to work via bus and subway and she doesn't like to stop reading mid-chapter. Because she can see how long a chapter is, she can decide whether she'll have time to finish it before reaching her destination.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:41 PM   #12
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So when you buy a book from Kobo, can you legally get both formats? epub to archive and kepub to read on your reader, for example?

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Old 10-03-2012, 01:06 PM   #13
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So when you buy a book from Kobo, can you legally get both formats? epub to archive and kepub to read on your reader, for example?

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I assume it's perfectly legal

They offer you both formats

I get the ePub for backup and use the kepub on my reader
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:29 PM   #14
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So when you buy a book from Kobo, can you legally get both formats? epub to archive and kepub to read on your reader, for example?

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That's the way I've done it since becoming a customer. There is nothing illegal about it. If it was, once you downloaded the Adobe ePUB or synced your reader and got the Kobo ePUB, the other option would be unavailable in my view.
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Kobo has made book portability part of their philosophy. If you buy a book from them they want you to be able to use it on all your devices. So if you own both a Kobo and, say, a Sony... you can.

It's an awesome philosophy, imho. And now that more publishers are experimenting with no DRM...
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