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Old 09-26-2012, 11:39 AM   #16
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Nobody owns atoms, and you're made of atoms. Give me those atoms! Who said you could hoard all that carbon?
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:00 PM   #17
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Well now you're starting to make some sense, no one owns anything, therefore everyone should be able to read everything, that follows from your premise right? Of course we can just replace atoms with all of creation and get the same result.

But I can't advocate piracy, not that I ever thought I did.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:36 AM   #18
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:10 PM   #19
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This thread reminds me of the old Steven Wright bit:

Why is the alphabet in that order?
Is it because of that song?
The guy who wrote that song wrote everything.

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Old 09-27-2012, 03:38 PM   #20
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Well now you're starting to make some sense, no one owns anything, therefore everyone should be able to read everything, that follows from your premise right? Of course we can just replace atoms with all of creation and get the same result.

But I can't advocate piracy, not that I ever thought I did.
If no one owns anything, I don't even own the carbon atoms in my body. Yet, I would very much like to continue using my skin.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:08 PM   #21
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If no one owns anything, I don't even own the carbon atoms in my body. Yet, I would very much like to continue using my skin.
Expect a DMCA take-down notice regarding your current spleen. I have reason to believe I own the rights to it.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:16 PM   #22
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Expect a DMCA take-down notice regarding your current spleen. I have reason to believe I own the rights to it.
I rather thought JSWolf had staked out exclusive rights to spleen around here.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:20 PM   #23
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I rather thought JSWolf had staked out exclusive rights to spleen around here.
No, JSWolf has almost exclusive rights to dogmatism, spleen is pretty well distributed.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:39 PM   #24
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No, JSWolf has almost exclusive rights to dogmatism, spleen is pretty well distributed.
I stand corrected.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:03 PM   #25
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Expect a DMCA take-down notice regarding your current spleen. I have reason to believe I own the rights to it.
As it turns out, my spleen is genetically nearly identical to yours. It is clearly a derivative work, with only minor alterations. I had planned on continuing to use it, but you just may have have a legal right to vent my spleen.

But if you look at it from a perspective outside the universe, spleens are for everyone. Spleens want to be free. So, go ahead, step outside of the universe, and look at it from that vantage point. I'll just keep using my spleen until you get back.

... that might make a good title for a book: "Not Without my Spleen".
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If no one owns anything, I don't even own the carbon atoms in my body. Yet, I would very much like to continue using my skin.
Why should non-ownership mean non-use?
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:55 PM   #28
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Non-ownership generally means free for the taking. As Iguana mentioned, you can take my carbon atoms over my cold dead body (excluding what I exhale or otherwise emit). Ownership means you can't use mine.
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Non-ownership generally means free for the taking. As Iguana mentioned, you can take my carbon atoms over my cold dead body (excluding what I exhale or otherwise emit). Ownership means you can't use mine.
Well I guess we run into problems when we use general meanings then. Let's use a more specific meaning of the term non-ownership. This means that the object in question is owned by everyone. Therefore we all have equal rights to the object.

Extending from one object to all, we cannot take anything because it is already there.
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Well I guess we run into problems when we use general meanings then. Let's use a more specific meaning of the term non-ownership. This means that the object in question is owned by everyone. Therefore we all have equal rights to the object.
So, I have rights to your organs which are equal to yours?
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