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Old 09-26-2012, 05:23 PM   #61
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"Streetview" is the ability to see "real world" photographs of a street, Dale. Eg, attached is the Streetview view of my house . You switch to it by dragging the little yellow man from above the zoom in/out slider onto a street.
Is that a drug deal going down in front of your house?
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:27 PM   #62
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Even Apple doesn't want to rely on their own maps where it really counts:

http://gizmodo.com/5946288/good-news...t-matters-most

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Old 09-27-2012, 01:43 PM   #63
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Maybe the wait will be longer than some anticipated.


I had not seen this.
Well we should not be concerned Captain.
Apple customers take pride in how long they must wait for the "magic."

Perhaps they will pitch tents outside Google headquarters?
?Occupy Google?
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:59 PM   #64
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Here's a cool Tumblr blog about Apple's new mapping service with plenty of pics.

Gothenburg has vanished from the planet, Berlin is now in Antarctica, and some alien force has flattened a huge section of London.

The Amazing iOS 6 Maps
Yes, these are things that make perfect sense when you think about it.

Berlin pretty much belongs in Antarctica, for example, since it spends much of the time there anyway, as does most of Germany. I do not know where Gothenburg is, and that has not changed under Apple Maps - no harm, no foul. London has been flattened many times in the past, so to find it flattened in modern times should be no surprise.

So what has really happened is that Apple Maps does not confine itself to replicating "reality". It improves reality. You should consider Apple Reality as an upgrade to the previous reality.

Reality iOS6 - if it's not on Apple Maps, you don't need to go there.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:18 PM   #65
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I use paper AAA maps for driving.
I used to, but getting out every 3 feet to move the map ahead of the car became a pain in the fundamenal. And eventually the tire tracks obscured the details on the map. In rainy weather, they disintegrated pretty fast. I tried switching to plasticized maps, but they were slippery when wet, and on several occasions I slid into adjacent states. Then I would have to buy a new map at service stations which no longer carry maps.

On the whole, it is simpler and more efficient to get lost with Apple Maps.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:21 PM   #66
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So what has really happened is that Apple Maps does not confine itself to replicating "reality". It improves reality. You should consider Apple Reality as an upgrade to the previous reality.

Reality iOS6 - if it's not on Apple Maps, you don't need to go there.
Yes. As someone who lives in one of the towns that Apple has decided doesn't exist, I am fully expecting the Apple helicopters to start the strafing and napalming at any second.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:24 PM   #67
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Is that a drug deal going down in front of your house?
Don't be silly. Harry does all his drug deals in his house*, much safer

* Legal note, Harry probably doesn't do drug deals at all
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:24 PM   #68
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Assuming you mean "Google" rather than "Goole" (which is a town in Yorkshire, England), you can already use Google Maps in iOS6. You just have to use it via Safari, rather than as an App. But iOS lets you put any web page as an icon on the home page, so there's really little to distinguish it from an app.
Are you sure? I mean, you probably checked it on the notoriously incorrect Apple Maps app. "Goole" sounds vaguely African to me, and is probably misspelled anyway. It certainly does not seem like an English word to me, neither Anglo nor Saxon. Okay, maybe Saxon, meaning "unfit for consumption by pigs" or "feed it to the French". Anyway, my guess is that Goole belongs somewhere in Upper Volta, and if Apple Maps were working right, it wouldn't be anywhere near Yorkshire, no matter where it really is. (We won't get into where Yorkshire is, since Dr. Who made a pudding of that...)
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:25 PM   #69
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Yes. As someone who lives in one of the towns that Apple has decided doesn't exist, I am fully expecting the Apple helicopters to start the strafing and napalming at any second.
Nonsense. A simple "undo" will delete you and your non-existent town!

Edit: or maybe it will require a Move to Trash. But you are probably already there, so it looks like Empty Trash is in order, Bilbo. Bilbo? Bilbo? oh well...

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Old 09-27-2012, 02:40 PM   #70
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Here in Hong Kong everybody is amazed. Apple singlehandedly undid all the reclamation done at the harbour for the last 10 years - thus relocated the Star Ferry piers and demolished the Government Building nearby.
They did have their priorities right though - the location of the Apple Store is clearly marked, but according to Apple it's right at the waterfront....

Hmmm. Maybe this is an attempt by Apple to restore Hong Kong to the British Empire! As Apple Maps is improved, all changes to Hong Kong since 1997 will be progressively (regressively?) erased. Soon you will find yourselves living under a capitalistic market system unfettered by any subsurvience to political ideology. Of course, you will no longer have access to Apple Maps once you are restored to your 1997 OS (OS 7, I believe) but I am sure you will be able to find a Mac Classic somewhere to reorient yourselves.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:18 PM   #71
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"Streetview" is the ability to see "real world" photographs of a street, Dale. Eg, attached is the Streetview view of my house . You switch to it by dragging the little yellow man from above the zoom in/out slider onto a street.
Your grass looks so green ... lol ...
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:47 PM   #72
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I really do not want to pay AU$120 per annum for map updates for my aging Garmin GPS unit.

So I use an excellent app called Metroview on my iPhone which cost me AU$24 with lifetime free updates. Better deal all round really.

BTW, Apple maps at least has our house located correctly, so it is a start!
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Tim Cook apologises for iOS6 Maps

Tim Cook apologises for iOS6 Maps:
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At Apple, we strive to make world-class products that deliver the best experience possible to our customers. With the launch of our new Maps last week, we fell short on this commitment. We are extremely sorry for the frustration this has caused our customers and we are doing everything we can to make Maps better.
We launched Maps initially with the first version of iOS. As time progressed, we wanted to provide our customers with even better Maps including features such as turn-by-turn directions, voice integration, Flyover and vector-based maps. In order to do this, we had to create a new version of Maps from the ground up.
There are already more than 100 million iOS devices using the new Apple Maps, with more and more joining us every day. In just over a week, iOS users with the new Maps have already searched for nearly half a billion locations. The more our customers use our Maps the better it will get and we greatly appreciate all of the feedback we have received from you.
While we’re improving Maps, you can try alternatives by downloading map apps from the App Store like Bing, MapQuest and Waze, or use Google or Nokia maps by going to their websites and creating an icon on your home screen to their web app.
Everything we do at Apple is aimed at making our products the best in the world. We know that you expect that from us, and we will keep working non-stop until Maps lives up to the same incredibly high standard.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:47 AM   #74
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The new Apple maps app is surprisingly much more accurate for the area in Croatia where I live than the Google app was/is. I am happy with the new app, and I can always use Google maps in my browser if I ever feel the need, so I am happy with the upgrade overall.
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From the BBC article on the Tim Cook apology:

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John Gruber, a tech blogger who closely follows Apple, said his sources had confirmed that Apple had until midway through 2013 to run on its licence deal with Google.

He added that it had decided to act now in order to add turn-by-turn directions to its offering without having to concede extra branding rights or permission for further data collection to the search giant.
This is interesting. I wonder if it's why Google aren't ready with a native iOS app?

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