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Old 09-24-2012, 09:25 AM   #91
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iPhone 5 review: Finally, the iPhone we've always wanted
can it get more pathetic or biased than this?

"oh, excuse me, sir. But your previous iPhone purchases were not quite what you wanted. But this is, trust me!"

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Old 09-24-2012, 11:38 AM   #92
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The first numbers are out.

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Apple just reported that it sold more than 5 million iPhones over the iPhone 5's opening weekend.
This is a very disappointing number.
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Apple sold the iPhone 5 in 9 countries over its opening weekend. It sold the iPhone 4S in 7. It actually sold fewer iPhones per country this year than the last. That's not just deceleration, that's shrinkage.
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:53 AM   #93
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Predictable.

5 millions+ sales on a great record breaking weekend for them and critics say 'don't look at that, look over there!'


edit: you should post about the foxconn riots too.

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Old 09-24-2012, 12:23 PM   #94
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So here is major media take, not business insider which is a tabloid.

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the number shows that the iPhone has not lost momentum despite the wave of new smartphones recently introduced by Apple’s competitors.
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“It’s just a reminder of how far ahead Apple is of pretty much everyone else here,” Mr. Dawson said. He added that Samsung is the one company that sells smartphones in similar quantities, but across many different models of phones. Also, the iPhone is the only smartphone that sells out so quickly.

The strong early sales of the new iPhone also suggest that, despite widespread criticism of the new maps software included with the phone, enthusiasm for Apple’s phone has not waned.
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0...n-new-iphones/
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:52 PM   #95
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Gene Munster, a financial analyst with Piper Jaffray, had predicted eight million sales the first weekend. He made his guess by counting the number of people waiting in line outside some Apple stores and comparing it to the number of people in line last year.

How much do these people get paid?
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:06 PM   #96
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Gene Munster, a financial analyst with Piper Jaffray, had predicted eight million sales the first weekend. He made his guess by counting the number of people waiting in line outside some Apple stores and comparing it to the number of people in line last year.

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How much do these people get paid?
He used simple sampling technique. Not too bad.
One question would be did he take the total for those stores, relate it to the grand total sold last year last year, and then factor in the increase of stores in the last year.
Just assuming from what is said above that he didn't count the increase of stores overall, he should have gotten a higher number than 8 Mil.
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Yes, there are Android phones on the market that equal or surpass the iPhone 5 on paper. Many have larger screens. Some have better battery life and comparable features. But the iPhone 5 wins on fit and finish, and on details that you can’t intuit from a spec sheet.
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there’s an upside to continually refining a great product, year after year: It keeps getting better. It would be silly to say that the iPhone 5 is the perfect smartphone—there’s always room for improvement. But it’s closer to perfection than any smartphone has ever been.
http://www.slate.com/articles/techno...need_one_.html
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:52 PM   #98
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Your Ars Technica article was most notable for it's lack of evidence to support your claim that Verizon ordered the phones that way.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/veriz...nt-be-relocked
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:40 PM   #99
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[QUOTE=ScotiaBurrell;2234311]More reviews (maps, battery life, etc)


Re: maps -
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He used simple sampling technique.
You are kidding, right?
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Your point? I missed it.





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More reviews (maps, battery life, etc)


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Google maps was not without its own growing pains either...

http://www.blogto.com/news_flash/201...ly_multiplies/

http://www.google.ca/search?q=google...w=1024&bih=600
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for a large, large number of people, iOS 6 Maps has been a huge improvement over Google Maps. I'm talking about those of us who live in China (you know, the place with 1.3+ billion people and the second-largest economy in the world).
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Well, don't take my word for it. Check out the difference yourself.
http://anthonydrendel.com/blog/2012/...and-china.html
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Yes, the basic fallback Verizon network is CDMA and still does not require SIM cards. The new Verizon LTE network is an evolution derived from UMTS which does require a SIM card like standard GSM phones do. The iPhone 5 is LTE capable, so it requires a SIM card to function on an LTE network.
Are these new phones dual networks capable?

ie. CDMA and GSM?
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