Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book General > Writers' Corner

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-17-2012, 04:53 PM   #16
JSWolf
Resident Curmudgeon
JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
JSWolf's Avatar
 
Posts: 37,102
Karma: 18147936
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts
Device: Sony Reader PRS-650, iPad, nook STR
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Drib View Post
The unnecessary fourth book in a trilogy.



Don
The trilogy with a prequel (if the 4th book is a prequel to the trilogy).
JSWolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2012, 08:15 AM   #17
DrNefario
Wizard
DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DrNefario's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,304
Karma: 4004656
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: UK
Device: Kindle, Kobo Touch, Nook SimpleTouch
Quote:
Originally Posted by orlok View Post
A "Quartet". For example, Lawrence Durrell's "Alexandria Quartet".
I was just coming back to suggest that. The Earthsea books by Ursula K Le Guin are also collected as the Earthsea Quartet.

All of these, though, surely suggest that the sequence is more-or-less complete. If you're adding more books, I'd suggest just adding Omnibus Volume 1 to the series title.
DrNefario is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2012, 08:25 AM   #18
orlok
Getting back into it
orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
orlok's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,264
Karma: 226714694
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Fire HD, Kobo glo
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrNefario View Post
I was just coming back to suggest that. The Earthsea books by Ursula K Le Guin are also collected as the Earthsea Quartet.

All of these, though, surely suggest that the sequence is more-or-less complete. If you're adding more books, I'd suggest just adding Omnibus Volume 1 to the series title.
Agreed. Quartet suggests that there will only be four books in the series. As does Trilogy suggest only three (unless you are Douglas Adams ).
orlok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2012, 08:47 AM   #19
VydorScope
Wizard
VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
VydorScope's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,388
Karma: 35140768
Join Date: Jun 2011
Device: Kindle Fire HD 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrNefario View Post
I was just coming back to suggest that. The Earthsea books by Ursula K Le Guin are also collected as the Earthsea Quartet.

All of these, though, surely suggest that the sequence is more-or-less complete. If you're adding more books, I'd suggest just adding Omnibus Volume 1 to the series title.
Well I was thinking adding the word "First" so "The First Quartet," That work?
VydorScope is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2012, 09:00 AM   #20
orlok
Getting back into it
orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.orlok ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
orlok's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,264
Karma: 226714694
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Fire HD, Kobo glo
Quote:
Originally Posted by VydorScope View Post
Well I was thinking adding the word "First" so "The First Quartet," That work?
That works. It does suggest there will be a second quartet, of course, so as long as you plan to do at least 4 more...
orlok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2012, 09:30 AM   #21
VydorScope
Wizard
VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
VydorScope's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,388
Karma: 35140768
Join Date: Jun 2011
Device: Kindle Fire HD 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by orlok View Post
That works. It does suggest there will be a second quartet, of course, so as long as you plan to do at least 4 more...


Maybe the second quartet will be books 2,3,4,5!
VydorScope is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2012, 09:49 AM   #22
ApK
What did you call me?
ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 4,261
Karma: 34288139
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: NJ, USA
Device: Kindle
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkScribe View Post
Douglas Adams stuck with trilogy - even with the fourth book in the series. He introduced it as "the fourth book in the trilogy".

"The increasingly inaccurately named" trilogy is how it actually appeared on some editions.
ApK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2012, 07:34 AM   #23
Format C:
Guru
Format C: ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Format C: ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Format C: ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Format C: ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Format C: ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Format C: ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Format C: ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Format C: ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Format C: ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Format C: ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Format C: ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 753
Karma: 1496807
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Third World
Device: iLiad + PRS-505 + Kindle 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by VydorScope View Post
If they were humor / satire I would so do that... but they are not. *pout*




That is how I saw it, till now. I want to release a collection of the first four books in the series and was wondering what that would be called.
Omnibus.

The generic term is polylogy, as long as Greek prefixes are used:

Monology
Duology
Trilogy
Tetralogy
Pentalogy
Hexalogy
Heptalogy
Oktalogy
Ennealogy (not sure about that)
Decalogy (in some languages a "k" replaces the "c", not sure on how it is in English)
Endecalogy
Dodecalogy

... and so on.

Last edited by Format C:; 09-28-2012 at 07:39 AM.
Format C: is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2012, 07:43 AM   #24
Dr. Drib
Grand Sorcerer
Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Dr. Drib's Avatar
 
Posts: 28,246
Karma: 12268454
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Borja (Lima), Peru
Device: Kindle PW2(WiFi) / FireHD; Kindle DX-G; Kobo-AuraHD,Glo,Mini; Ipad Air
An Omnibus is merely a collection of stories or novels.

If an author wants to show a closer narrative relationship between a developing story-line, then a better connection needs to be made, in my opinion.

--- Ah, well: Give me the entertainingly harmless fantasies of Lin Carter, rather than the obscene bricks/tomes that currently dominate in the marketplace. However, things run in cycles.....



Don

Last edited by Dr. Drib; 09-28-2012 at 09:24 AM. Reason: or to of
Dr. Drib is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2012, 08:16 AM   #25
VydorScope
Wizard
VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
VydorScope's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,388
Karma: 35140768
Join Date: Jun 2011
Device: Kindle Fire HD 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Drib View Post
If an author wants to show closer narrative relationship between a developing story-line, then a better connection needs to be made, in my opinion.
Don

Not sure what you mean here...
VydorScope is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2012, 08:40 AM   #26
ApK
What did you call me?
ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 4,261
Karma: 34288139
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: NJ, USA
Device: Kindle
Quote:
Originally Posted by VydorScope View Post
Not sure what you mean here...
He means an omnibus is just a collection of separate works in a single volume.
It doesn't mean all those works are a series of any kind, or even are necessarily related, beyond whatever reason someone decided to publish them together.

So while a "Collection of the first four works", if published as a single volume, and not, say, a box set of the four separate volumes, would indeed be an omnibus edition, it doesn't seem to address the original question.

The term does not convey the connection between the works that "trilogy" does.

Last edited by ApK; 09-28-2012 at 08:47 AM.
ApK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2012, 09:26 AM   #27
Dr. Drib
Grand Sorcerer
Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Dr. Drib ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Dr. Drib's Avatar
 
Posts: 28,246
Karma: 12268454
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Borja (Lima), Peru
Device: Kindle PW2(WiFi) / FireHD; Kindle DX-G; Kobo-AuraHD,Glo,Mini; Ipad Air
Quote:
Originally Posted by VydorScope View Post
Not sure what you mean here...
Sorry.

The connection referred to would be some of the words we've discussed, which would be somewhat better choices, in my opinion, rather than the word 'Omnibus.'

ApK said it a lot better than I did.



Don
Dr. Drib is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2012, 02:03 PM   #28
VydorScope
Wizard
VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.VydorScope ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
VydorScope's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,388
Karma: 35140768
Join Date: Jun 2011
Device: Kindle Fire HD 7
Ah! OK

Well I am thinking "The First Quartet" and then maybe a subtitle of something and the concept of foundations, beginnings, or even dawn.

The first arc in the series pretty much builds the universe and sets all major long running characters in place. That is why I want to release it as a set. The connection between say book 6 and 7 might be much looser, but both of them will be firmly planted in the world created in 1-4.
VydorScope is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2012, 03:22 PM   #29
frahse
occasional author
frahse ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.frahse ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.frahse ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.frahse ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.frahse ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.frahse ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.frahse ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.frahse ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.frahse ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.frahse ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.frahse ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
frahse's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,674
Karma: 2050224250
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Wandering God's glorious hills, valleys and plains.
Device: Kindle3-3G, Archos 43
As indicated previously I personally believe that simplicity is best for many reasons, so I typically apply KISS.

Ex. "3rd in the Moon Walking series." The "Moon Rise" volume or group of the "Planet Series."

Also you can group within a series or across series and not necessarily in printing order. Once you decide on what the group is, then the next task is to name the group in a way that will be easily remembered.

I think the point is to give the customer a quick easy way to understand what could be complicated. Groupings should occur as the author sets forth a relationship for the story and eventually the reader.
frahse is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Never ... ever ... ever read The Farseer Trilogy! lunixer Reading Recommendations 47 12-15-2011 03:57 PM
How to split up a Trilogy Mickser_52 Sigil 5 10-14-2011 04:39 PM
The Trilogy of Tinna MirandaMayer Self-Promotions by Authors and Publishers 1 02-12-2011 01:06 AM
LoTR Trilogy cleaned up? Mrgauth Reading Recommendations 12 09-26-2010 07:28 PM
DR800 Sorting a trilogy orenr iRex 17 09-02-2010 02:20 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:51 AM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.