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Old 09-12-2012, 11:34 AM   #46
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I'd love to see a similar update for my Kindle 2, but I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that I'm going to have to upgrade to get KF8. If only there was a newer model that had the full, physical K2 keyboard, physical page-turn buttons (wider than the K3's), AND touch-screen navigation with the new Paperwhite/external lighting feature. I'd be one happy camper.
The one thing I'd love to have from the K2 for my K3 is that wonky joystick. It may look a bit odd but it's a lot easier to use than those tiny directional buttons.
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Old 09-12-2012, 11:58 AM   #47
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You do realize how stodgy that sounds?

"Bah! Humbug. You kids and your 'progress' and 'improvements.' Bring back ice boxes, that's what I say!"

It's hardly anything to get excited about. I have absolutely no problem with the previous fonts and how they displayed. The fact is, I read off the default font (whatever it is) and have no desire to change it.

Keep in mind that I treat my Kindles (K3 & K4) like paperbacks and read strictly for entertainment. I open a book and read. I don't use the dictionary, highlighting, bookmarks, notes, different fonts, etc. I also don't use calibre.

If Amazon wants to get me excited, then they'd use folders for organizing content. That, I'd find truly useful. Otherwise, ...meh.
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:05 PM   #48
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If Amazon wants to get me excited, then they'd use folders for organizing content. That, I'd find truly useful. Otherwise, ...meh.
I was hoping it would be part of the update. Oh well, a girl can dream.
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:06 PM   #49
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If Amazon wants to get me excited, then they'd use folders for organizing content. That, I'd find truly useful. Otherwise, ...meh.
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:06 PM   #50
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Surely you can fix that in Sigil, no?
I don't think Sigil handles KF8 files. You would probably have to convert to epub, edit and then reconvert to KF8. Not really worth the effort in my opinion.
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:21 PM   #51
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KindleGen then?
I don't edit my content so I'm fairly clueless.
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:27 PM   #52
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Does this new firmware update cause any problems for the new tools_v5.3 at all?
Good golly, Miss Molly. I'm behind the times. Glad you posted that.
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:36 PM   #53
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KindleGen then?
I don't edit my content so I'm fairly clueless.
Nope. Kindlegen still needs an epub, htm, or html file. I may play around with conversion just to see if it's *possible*. Still probably not worth the effort unless you're especially anal.
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Good golly, Miss Molly. I'm behind the times. Glad you posted that.
You are quite welcome!

On another note, I got my first KF8 and on my 3.4 enabled reader it looks just plain awful. Awful line spacing, the drop caps look terrible, the fonts spindly and the file is HUGE!
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You are quite welcome!

On another note, I got my first KF8 and on my 3.4 enabled reader it looks just plain awful. Awful line spacing, the drop caps look terrible, the fonts spindly and the file is HUGE!
Isn't the whole point of KF8 to give creators the freedom to make things truly awful?
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On another note, I got my first KF8 and on my 3.4 enabled reader it looks just plain awful. Awful line spacing, the drop caps look terrible, the fonts spindly and the file is HUGE!
There should be an option to turn off publisher font in the aA menu if the embedded font is done correctly (at least KT and K4 have this option). Most embedded fonts will not look great at the smaller text sizes. Not enough screen resolution.

It sounds like you might be rolling your own KF8 with kindlegen or kindle previewer? in which case the file contains mobi, kf8, and source, and will be roughly 3x larger. There is a python script here (mobi forum) that will extract just the KF8. KF8 is not significantly larger than equivalent mobi in general. KF8 files delivered by Amazon only contain the KF8 segment. I haven't played with calibre's conversion to KF8, it may not have this problem.

There is also an issue with KDP when some Word docs are submitted for conversion (unless that has been fixed). Looks okay in previewer and on Fire but on KT text is tiny. "Wool Omnibus Edition" for example. Len Edgerley (Kindle Chronicles podcast) had this happen to a book he submitted.
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There should be an option to turn off publisher font in the aA menu if the embedded font is done correctly (at least KT and K4 have this option). Most embedded fonts will not look great at the smaller text sizes. Not enough screen resolution.

It sounds like you might be rolling your own KF8 with kindlegen or kindle previewer? in which case the file contains mobi, kf8, and source, and will be roughly 3x larger. There is a python script here (mobi forum) that will extract just the KF8. KF8 is not significantly larger than equivalent mobi in general. KF8 files delivered by Amazon only contain the KF8 segment. I haven't played with calibre's conversion to KF8, it may not have this problem.

There is also an issue with KDP when some Word docs are submitted for conversion (unless that has been fixed). Looks okay in previewer and on Fire but on KT text is tiny. "Wool Omnibus Edition" for example. Len Edgerley (Kindle Chronicles podcast) had this happen to a book he submitted.
Nope, original azw w/DRM downladed before the update was 545 KB. Downloaded after the update the file is an azw3 w/DRM and is 2007 KB. Calibre w/tools_v5.3 converts it to a 542 KB mobi and surprisingly a 1945 KB EPUB.
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Yes, that option is there (and needed!) on the K3 for the KF8 files I've looked at since updating.
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...and surprisingly a 1945 KB EPUB.
Not surprising if the original KF8 file contained embedded fonts. The MOBI would, of course, omit the fonts as it would be the older "classic" MOBI. The EPUB likely contains the fonts and hence is rather large.
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Not surprising if the original KF8 file contained embedded fonts. The MOBI would, of course, omit the fonts as it would be the older "classic" MOBI. The EPUB likely contains the fonts and hence is rather large.
Ah ha! Your explanation lends sense to the issue! Thanks!
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