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Old 08-31-2012, 12:04 PM   #61
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How did you all survive before e-readers? moving your fingers to turn paper books must have been a nightmare for you guys.
I used my tongue

More seriously, I don't look at the exact same page in a book over and over and over and over again like I do a screen. That paper page, also soaks up the oil my fingers may leave behind during a brief page turn. That oil, or grease if you're eating something, stays on an eink screen.

It bugs the hell out of me when my devices are dirty.
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How did you all survive before e-readers? moving your fingers to turn paper books must have been a nightmare for you guys.
My hands hurt a lot when I'd do a lot of reading. I get a lot more read now that I have something lighter and thinner to hold.
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By 'high resolution' I assume it is 1024x768, which is what I've been hoping for (it would make embedded fonts more readable at small text sizes). As long as the contrast ratio is improved overall, I'm all in. It would be nice if the existing KT covers will still fit, as I would not need to purchase a new one.

Wonder how they've replaced the function of the physical Home button? Perhaps it is a capacitative or pressure touch sensitive area now. could they also have 'invisible' page turn buttons?

I do hope that they have solved the 'hotspot' problems that have plagued the Nook GlowLight. E-ink screens are delicate enough without making them even more delicate.

If there's an option to get one without the built in light I would probably go for that if there's any reduction of contrast associated with it.
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I'll probably buy one of them if the price is decent.....
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Old 08-31-2012, 04:17 PM   #65
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I hold it with my thumb on the edge of the screen bezel, and a slight rolling of my thumb is sufficient to turn the page. Remember that you don't need to actually touch the screen, just break the IR beams which are about 1mm above the screen surface.
How does it work inside of a waterproof bag?
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The WSJ review of the Sony PRS-T2 claimed the device had the whitest e-ink screen of any e-reader so far. People who've bought that model have posted similar conclusions on MR.

I wonder if we'll be seeing whiter e-ink screens from this point on.

Perhaps there's a distinct difference in the new Kindle's screen beyond the light and perhaps Amazon's simply more efficient than Sony at marketing a basic improvement in e-ink screens overall.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:17 PM   #67
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How does it work inside of a waterproof bag?
I completely forgot about this one. I was so focused on having additional page turn buttons that I missed that from time to time I use my K3 in a waterproof bag. I suppose without page turn buttons this would be impossible. But even if there were any, would it be possible to turn the touch screen off? How does the Nook handle this issue?
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but tapping on the screen requires even less muscular effort than pressing a button!
For me the benefit of page turn buttons is that I am able to keep holding the device in a manner that is more comfortable than having my thumb perched over the screen the whole time or continually having to adjust the way I was holding it.

The addition of the front light and a supposedly improved screen might overcome this downside, but it will be a shame that it won't be an upgrade in every way.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:48 PM   #69
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For me the benefit of page turn buttons is that I am able to keep holding the device in a manner that is more comfortable than having my thumb perched over the screen the whole time or continually having to adjust the way I was holding it.

The addition of the front light and a supposedly improved screen might overcome this downside, but it will be a shame that it won't be an upgrade in every way.
You'll get hand cramps that way.
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This sounds like a worthy upgrade for my PRS-505! I hope (but doubt) they included a microSD slot.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:58 PM   #71
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There hasn't been a card slot since the original Kindle. I can't imagine them bringing it back.
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:05 PM   #72
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Anyone want to make some predictions on the price?
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But how do you hold the Touch? You would have to move your thumb each time you want to turn the page. It's not possible to simply rest the thumb on the display of course.
How did you turn pages on the Kindle Keyboard without moving your thumbs?

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Will the new "Paperwhite" e-ink make up for the reduced contrast from the lighting overlay? I'm skeptical. The front-lit Nooks clearly had less contrast.
I have one of the earliest Sony Touch models and the reduced contrast is very noticeable. If the new Kindle doesn't have good contrast, I may skip this year's model. However, Amazon and others did manage to solve the contrast problems for touch readers, so maybe Amazon will have come up with a solution for poor resolution on front-lit models. Here's hoping.

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...I do hope that they have solved the 'hotspot' problems that have plagued the Nook GlowLight. E-ink screens are delicate enough without making them even more delicate.

If there's an option to get one without the built in light I would probably go for that if there's any reduction of contrast associated with it.
It would really be a deal breaker if they haven't. As I mentioned elsewhere, the only Nook Glow I've held in my hands was in a B&N store and it had an obvious hotspot near the center of the page. It was almost like a tiny man had poked a hole in the screen and was peering through with a flashlight.
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Anyone want to make some predictions on the price?
$149 for the ad subsidized version $199 for the standard $250 for the xtra memory and camera...
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$149 for the ad subsidized version $199 for the standard $250 for the xtra memory and camera...
Sounds about right for the new FIRE 7-inchers.
But for the paperwhite it is more likely $129 for the KSO Wifi and $169 for the KSO 3G, assuming an XGA screen. Otherwise, drop $20.
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