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Old 08-22-2012, 11:14 AM   #46
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So you all are discussing "some tactlessness" on her part from 9 months ago when she was concerned that her livelihood was threatened, and she subsequently requested (and was granted) that the promotional CDs get pulled from some websites, and publicly deciding to individually boycott her works.
I've only seen a couple people mention anything about a boycot of any kind. I think most of us were just curious about the whole situation more than anything else. I didn't like the way she kept calling the Joe/5th Imperium "The Pirate", but all it did was make me shake my head a bit.


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Maybe we should open a thread of "authors who did something or said something I didn't like" so everyone can get in on the action of suggesting we not read specific authors because of something they said instead of whether their work is any good.
If you start it, they will come. People make all kinds of decisions everyday based on things others might consider trivial or silly or whatever.

I haven't been able to read an Anne Perry book (although I do have a few) because her name always brings to mind the brutal murder she commited with a friend when she was 15. Much more serious than calling someone a pirate yes, but I've gotten crap for it from a few people.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:38 AM   #47
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You really need to read the thread. She claimed that she had no real way to come to the conclusion other then her book Memory which wasn't included in the CD sales went up.

As to those who think this is making mountain out of molehill please read the Sample Chapters thread. The little bit quoted in our thread isn't all she said about things.

You really need to read the thread to see why a few of us was tuned off by her attitude
Martin aka mjdb2 is an idiot. He's the one that pointed out to LMB about the CD being given away for free when all she was looking for was sample chapters.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:55 AM   #48
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Yes, there's nothing too bad in that thread from LMB herself, except the mistaken labelling of fifthimperium as a pirate site. I'm not sure it's very much related to the withdrawal of the CD image, given that the thread is old. I don't know what's changed.

I'll go back to looking forward to Captain Vorpatril's Alliance.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:58 AM   #49
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Go to Baen Ebooks to the Printed Books With Cd link, there are four books in the Baen Free Library that let you download the cd iso.
That's useful to know. Thanks.
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Old 08-22-2012, 02:01 PM   #50
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I'd rather talk about CAPTAIN VORPATRIL'S ALLIANCE as well.

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Old 08-22-2012, 02:05 PM   #51
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Kinda silly really. The whole CD is available at the usual torrent sites, or even in a Google search.

The silliest part is that it was released as a legal and "pass around/share/copy please"

Seems like "it's ok, I'm only a little bit pregnant"

The CD was released and it's license essentially begged to copy/share/give away. It s now legally at places like the Pirate Bay.

You can't unscrew that pregnancy....

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Old 08-22-2012, 03:12 PM   #52
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The first half is up. There might still be the baen bundle thread going for November.

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Old 08-22-2012, 03:59 PM   #53
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If sales of memory went up, I wonder if she considered that it happened because people read the free books and became hooked on the series and wanted more? That's what happened with me and Honor Harrington anyway
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:02 PM   #54
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The first half is up. There might still be the baen bundle thread going for November.

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I read that in e-ARC so long ago now that I forget it's not officially out yet.

What is everyone waiting for?
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:14 PM   #55
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The cheaper version. I'm not paying $15 for a single ebook. I don't need to read it now.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:39 PM   #56
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Frankly, if I had to choose between the rest of Baen and Bujold, I'd choose Bujold.

I don't feel that fifthimperium were doing anything too wrong (although its own popularity seems to have worked against it), but I think it was kind of against the spirit of the CDs. The CDs were for owners of the hardback to evangelise to their friends, not to say "hey, everyone in the world, no need to pay for that stuff, get it free here." That's probably Baen's mistake, but then Bujold's CD could quite easily be good for Baen and bad for Bujold. It promotes other Baen books, not written by her.

Baen already have a try-before-you-buy system. It's called the Free Library. They do not offer the CDs for worldwide download there.

It sounds like Bujold was a bit strong (I haven't read the thread, yet - I'm about to), but fifthimperium seems to have respected her wishes and pulled the files. What's the problem?

It's worth mentioning that the CDs were up for 18 months or more. I imagine the sales situation has clarified in that time.

Several years ago this critique of the fifthimperium might have made sense... but Baen has known about them for years now and could have altered the license on new CD's to prevent that practice. Frankly, the fifthimperium makes Baen look better to the reading public than the free library does since it makes them look benevolent compared to other publishing companies.

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Old 08-22-2012, 06:53 PM   #57
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I read that in e-ARC so long ago now that I forget it's not officially out yet.

What is everyone waiting for?
It's eARC'ed?!!
Argghhh! I must've missed the newsletter notice.
Yup! It's there...
Well, time to update my bundle collection...

(Thanks for the hint!)

Edit: No, I don't need to read it *now*. But saturday...?
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:05 PM   #58
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I think Baen proved that the CD's were self pimping Baen authors works
(I know that I have bought backlist books because of the CD's and the free Library)

I can't say that she lost or gained sales, bt calling the fifth imperium a Pirate Site went over the top. The site owner abided by the publisher request to remove (it can't be called a 'take down notice', since they did have (and still do) Baens permission to post Baen CD's (except for LMB's).

I think, I will think twice about buying any author that goes off the wall like that (and I have quite a few if not all of the Miles stories, either in Analog SF/F or Baen).
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:19 PM   #59
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The cheaper version. I'm not paying $15 for a single ebook. I don't need to read it now.
That's what I thought, but then I read the 6 sample chapters. Click on the spoiler tag above to read the cliffhanger. It will drive you nuts and make you want to buy the eARC.
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Maybe we should open a thread of "authors who did something or said something I didn't like" so everyone can get in on the action of suggesting we not read specific authors because of something they said instead of whether their work is any good.
I actually know of a handful of authors I will not buy because of how they behaved or because of their politics. I don't care if their work is any good - I don't want to be involved in supporting them.

I know people, for example, who won't buy OS Card because of his religious beliefs and/or statements he's made on his blog.
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