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Old 07-26-2012, 12:47 PM   #31
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I'm trying to come up with a suitable pseudonym simply because I want to keep "that life" separate from "this life". A big part of the reason is Goodreads and MobileRead - I enjoy my active online life as a reader and I don't want that being complicated when I'm participating, especially on GR. Plus, having seen how some authors act on GR, and how readers can get nuts when engaging them... I don't want to be any more a part of that than I have to be. I don't do drama.

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Old 07-26-2012, 02:32 PM   #32
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I agree. There could be scenes in erotica that if taken out of context would be porn, but in context, even the most explicit scenes could have redeeming qualities that appeal to more than just prurient interests.

Equating erotica with porn is just a prejudice, like claiming all TV is junk.
As someone who writes it, I like think that there's a strong plot and well developed characters in my stories as well. But there's no doubt that if you take out the sex, the story will be a lot shorter.

I do, however, have a good comeback for people who get sniffy about sex in novels. During a sex scene is where your character are at their most exposed and honest. Society manners and fancy clothes are gone, what is left is the real person, stripped back to bedrock.
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:25 PM   #33
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I have used a pen name for my shorts which are mainly chick lit, but decided to use my real name for my novels, which I liked to think were dramas with a romantic element. I'm coming to the conclusion that they are actually romances with a dramatic element, and border on chick lit like my shorts. <sigh>

But I think I'll keep the division.
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:30 PM   #34
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I write porn (sorry, erotica) under my own name. It's actually worked out very well, as there are not too many erotica writers who do use their own name and are willing to do publicity, so I've now got a contract I wouldn't otherwise have got.
I only see three books on your website, Eileen, science fiction all of them, with the promise of an erotic book set in Regency London, presumably not out yet. So what have you published that can be classed as erotic?
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:58 PM   #35
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I only see three books on your website, Eileen, science fiction all of them, with the promise of an erotic book set in Regency London, presumably not out yet. So what have you published that can be classed as erotic?
http://www.amazon.com/Angels-Demons-...7704416&sr=1-3

Yes, it's filthy!

And more in the works, either accepted and awaiting publication, or under edits, and the current WIP should be a big one.
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:43 AM   #36
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Equating erotica with porn is just a prejudice, like claiming all TV is junk.
I don't consider it to be a prejudice. If you buy it for the sex, it's porn. (I have absolutely nothing against porn, I should add.)

Be honest: how many erotica stories would sell as stories without the sex? If the author took out the sex, would they still have a saleable story, or is it the sex that sells the story?
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:38 AM   #37
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I don't consider it to be a prejudice. If you buy it for the sex, it's porn. (I have absolutely nothing against porn, I should add.)

Be honest: how many erotica stories would sell as stories without the sex? If the author took out the sex, would they still have a saleable story, or is it the sex that sells the story?
My stories would stand without the sex. And the characters are not interchangable.
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:47 AM   #38
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My stories would stand without the sex. And the characters are not interchangable.
But is it the sex that's selling it? ie, do you think you'd have the same level of sales if you'd published the story without the sex? It would be an interesting experiment to publish the same story with and without sex, and compare sales, don't you think?
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:39 AM   #39
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I don't consider it to be a prejudice. If you buy it for the sex, it's porn.
I don't think that's fair or accurate.
You're defining porn even more subjectively than Justice Potter did.
You aren't just saying "I know it when I see it" but "If anyone thinks it, then it is."

Pornography is not merely anything that appeals to prurient interests.

If a kid looks at Nat Geo just for the naked natives, does that make it porn? If the native was a kid, is NatGeo guilty of child pornography?

Is every attractive woman who passes by a heterosexual male on the street a porn performer?
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I don't think that's fair or accurate.
You're defining porn even more subjectively than Justice Potter did.
You aren't just saying "I know it when I see it" but "If anyone thinks it, then it is."

Pornography is not merely anything that appeals to prurient interests.

If a kid looks at Nat Geo just for the naked natives, does that make it porn? If the native was a kid, is NatGeo guilty of child pornography?

Is every attractive woman who passes by a heterosexual male on the street a porn performer?
No, my (personal) definition is that porn is something that's sold with sex as its #1 objective. I think most people would say that "Playboy" is sold with sex as its primary selling point, whereas "National Geographic" is not. My question would be, is erotica sold with sex as its primary selling point? Personally, I think it is. That's certainly not saying that erotica can't also have literary merit, just as "Playboy" actually does have very interesting articles in it.
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:21 AM   #41
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No, my (personal) definition is that porn is something that's sold with sex as its #1 objective.
I don't think that is a fair (or widely held) definition.

That may, however, be a fairly accurate definition of erotica.

Erotica without the sex, as I mentioned elsewhere, would be called "romance," no?

Bringing this back on topic (slighty):

Misty Rain: Erotica pseudonym
Misty Canyon: Porn psuedonym

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I don't think that is a fair (or widely held) definition.

That may, however, be a fairly accurate definition of erotica.

Erotica without the sex, as I mentioned elsewhere, would be called "romance," no?
Sure - it's just my personal definition. I'm certainly not trying to impose it on anybody else .

I was quite shocked when I flicked through a "Mills and Boone" romance fairly recently. I'd been under the impression that it was strictly "no sex" romance. It seems that's no longer the case!
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But is it the sex that's selling it? ie, do you think you'd have the same level of sales if you'd published the story without the sex? It would be an interesting experiment to publish the same story with and without sex, and compare sales, don't you think?
No, of course, there wouldn't be the same sales without the sex. It's like having a western without cowboys, or a murder mystery without a dead body. Not impossible, but a bit pointless.

Without the sex, it would be a romance. Girl wants to walk on the wild side. Boy likes girl, decides to give her an adventure. Adventure goes wrong, girl goes home, boy still likes girl so hides the fact that he likes the wild side. When she finds out, she gets really pissed, does nasty things to him while he's asleep (and of course his friends put it on youtube). complications ensue until they both admit their love and HEA.

It's a story which works, but add in some sizzling sex and it's a much better story.
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That's certainly not saying that erotica can't also have literary merit, just as "Playboy" actually does have very interesting articles in it.


The only reason I ever read it .


In my case the use of a psuedonym is a no-brainer. I have a full time job, working from home a lot, and when I do finally publish, I don't want to do so under my real name for fear of raising questions in the minds of those I work for (even though they do get their fair pound of flesh out of me).
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For what it's worth, it doesn't make any difference. I write pretty racy erotica under my own name, and I'm astonished by how few people I know actually read it. Only the people who read erotica anyway. My non-kinky friends and family don't bother, so they have no idea what is actually in it.

Unless you have a unique name, the chances are that even if you have a best seller flying off the shelves in your local bookshop, people won't connect it to you unless you tell them.
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