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Old 11-15-2011, 09:55 AM   #16
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Hope I didn't miss the topic too much (?)
A little bit, but it helps to illustrate the situations we have now - Annotation is an afterthought for the vendors.

I can also "synchronize" the annotations between ADE and Mantano (Android), but it's not as seamless as I would like. It works, but with quirks that scream "immature technology". And as you're aware, drawing/freehand is not supported.

Although I don't like being locked to a single vendor, Amazon's Whispersync at least handles textual annotations quite well. Of course, getting it done within the same company (or team) is usually easier than getting it done between many companies.

That's why we need a standardized way that's well-thought and more generally accepted, be it (preferably) a defined, or de facto standard. The Adobe format is a good start but it's lacking in many aspects, and while it's supported on some platforms it's (IMO) far from being a "generally accepted" one.

Few days ago I got a reply from ASTRI (http://www.astri.org/), one of the companies involved in the standardization process for annotation in EPUB. They told me work is getting started at "EPUB 3 Work Group and NISO standard organization" (http://www.niso.org/topics/ccm/e-book_annotation/).

BTW, they also told me their proposed standard is free and open for any vendor to use. But I'm not sure if any vendor besides themselves is going to implement it anytime soon, understanding that it may not be the final standard used by EPUB, and as long as annotation is considered an afterthought by the vendor (which, BTW, is possibly the direct result of lack of user request, and I don't understand why people don't ask for it more...)

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Old 07-26-2012, 09:43 AM   #17
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What's the current status of this? Which devices/formats do allow for syncing annotations with a PC? Thanks
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:50 AM   #18
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What's the current status of this? Which devices/formats do allow for syncing annotations with a PC? Thanks
kindlecomes close, if you also use kindle for PC, but only if you bought the book(s) from amazon AFAIK

When you make highlights, bookmarks, and notes on your Kindle (this is also includes the mobile Kindle app) your annotations are automatically synced back to your Kindle account. Amazon aptly calls this service, “Read.Review.Remember“.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:53 AM   #19
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Syncing annotated PDF files is a possible option.

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Old 08-11-2012, 10:54 AM   #20
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Syncing annotated PDF files is a possible option.

Cheers.
Thanks, is there a list of the devices for which this works? Would it work for a Sony reader?
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:42 PM   #21
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Not sure, though most e-ink devices don't seem to be capable of editing PDF files.

You can use iOS, Android, and of course Win, Mac devices, whatever that can edit PDFs.

Just use a sync program to sync the files/folders directly.

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Old 08-17-2012, 05:52 PM   #22
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Actually, syncing annotaded PDF is the solution I use, testing ezPDF Reder and RepliGo Reader (the latter seems to me a bit better).

The syncing takes place with Dropbox, via Dropsync

The issue there is how to keep the Calibre dir structure - that is how to export the library to the device the first time, in order not to lose all the metadata. Once the library is exported, with all the information, any change in the pdf files as such will be reflected either side when sync is performed

I opened a thread on this subject here

The problem arises when it comes to sync the annotations on EPUB books... they are not stored inside the epub file, thus making useless any sync arrangements

Does anyone have any clue on that?

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Old 11-30-2012, 10:40 AM   #23
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The situation with EPUB annotation seems to be more or less the same from the time of one year ago, at least from an end-user point of view.

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Old 12-11-2012, 10:18 AM   #24
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For annotations, wouldn't make sense to build on the EPUB Canonical Fragment Identifier (epubcfi) Specification?

Using that to save the location of an annotation makes it easy to always have the correct location even if the book is loaded onto a different reader that flows text differently (screen reader size, font change, whatever).

Combine the above with an XML wrapper to hold the text of the annotation, or the location of the image, and it should be doable, no? Having people agree to what the XML wrapper should be would be another story...
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Haven't have time to go through it. Regardless, annotation seems to be still pretty much an afterthought...?

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Old 10-15-2013, 06:55 PM   #26
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besides that the topic is almost a yearling...

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=260
together with
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=221357

but only the text kind, not the full blown tack-on-what-you-want kind

as for the standards...no idea.
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